Regarding John 12:49-50: Doesn't this prove that Jesus was an obedient Son and did all that he was commanded ?

Question

"For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.”

Answer 1

This is just one of the many verses that prove man's doctrine of the trinity false.

have a good day! :)

Answer 2

Yhshua/Jesus always emphatically stated that he serves his God Yhwh/Jehovah and he taught his Apostles that fact as well. Please see the following Scriptures for proof that Jesus worships, serves and subjects himself to Jehovah in the past and present:
John 20:17
John 17:3-5
John 5:19
John 14:28
Mark 10:18
Matthew 26:39
John 8:17-18
Mark 13:32
Matthew 20:23
Matthew 3:17
Acts 3:13
Revelation 3:12
but also in the future, after the 1,000 year reign of peace under Christ,
after he restores all obedient ones to everlasting life the
following will take place in heaven:;
1 Cor 15:24-28

so, Jesus' own words are our greatest source of knowledge and I for one will not call him a liar!

but (you say) Jesus said "I and the Father are one" at John 10:30, then they picked up stones to stone him and then he explained just six verses later that he is only "God's Son" John 10:36. it's interesting how people who choose the pagan Roman trinity god stop reading before John 10:36! then, to top it all off, Jesus says that his true followers are "one" like he and his Father (John 17:21, 22) making it crystal clear that "one" doesn't mean 'the same person', it means 'in unity'.

then there's John 8:58 which should be read in context. here the Jewish leaders are telling Jesus that Abraham and the prophets are greater. Then Jesus clearly says that he can not glorify himself, only the Father can. Then he says that Abraham rejoiced about the Messiah, to which they said 'how can you claim to have seen Abraham when you aren't even 50?' Then Jesus says that he existed before Abraham.
that is a logical answer, however supporters of the Roman idea of the 3-in-1 god say that Jesus uttered God's Holy name in verse 58; how does that make any sense?
which is a more sensible answer to the Jews question of 'you arent even 50, how can you have seen Abraham?'
A. I existed before Abraham
or
B. Before Abraham [God's Holy Name]
it makes no grammatical sense to say he was answering their question with a sentence fragment like "before Abraham Yhwh"

but it *was* outrageous to the Jews for him to claim that he existed in heaven before he was sent to earth by Yhwh

Answer 3

Yes. And that's why Jesus could say: "The Father loves his Son and has put everything in his power." (John 3:35)

Bible commentators since the time of Origen (185 AD - 254 AD) have recognized the subordination of the Son to the Father. ("Origen's Commentary on the Gospel of John," found in "Ante-Nicene Fathers," volume 9)

A good book on this is "Divine Truth or Human Traditon," by Patrick Navas (2007), see:

http://divinetruth.homestead.com/index.html

Answer 4

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Answer 5

Of course!

The people residing in Judea at the time were both wheat and tares.

This is why some of them could not accept him as the messiah.

It was not the "wheat" that called for Barabas to be released.

It was his bretheran, the tares, that would call for a murderer, "son of his father", to be released.

Yahshua (Jah's Savior) had many many followers these were the wheat.

Yahshua taught of God Almighty. Oh, how the tares must have hated him.

Answer 6

Yes. "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Philippians 2 v. 8. This is why Jesus is described as a servant in Isaiah. He was an example of perfect obedience. Moreover, because Jewish law required the corroboration of testimony by a witness, the Father and the Holy Spirit are witnesses of what Jesus said in obedience to the Father. It is important too for Christians to base their testimony on the word of God. "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." (1 John 5 v. 6)

Answer 7

Its another sign of how incredibly obedient He was to the Father! He didn't speak His own words but only those of the Father! Who else can claim that? Amazing!!

Answer 8

Jesus loved his father and loved to do his will. He was not a puppet he was born with a free will. If he was a puppet why did satan test him for 40 days and offer him the world if he bowed down and did an act of worship. He chose not to as he wanted to do his fathers will and sanctify is holy name.

Answer 9

wgr88 uses Hebrews 13:8, that verse says Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever (KJV) It does not say that he from everlasting to everlasting. Read the verse yourself.

Answer 10

in Hebrews 13:8 Jesus has been forever in the past and forever in the future, He is God indeed, [also see John 8:58 where He said He is THE I AM, John 1] but when He was here He was here living as you and i must live so Yes Jesus was fully man and was obedient to The Father, the thing that Adam and Eve did was sin, Jesus lived as they should have [and as we should and CAN with His power] a perfect life so in that He was our example, in fact He asked a question, in John 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
He was without one sin, but that did NOT subtract from the fact He was God, look at the most famous verse in all the bible John 3:16 Jesus is the one in which we have life through and in order to give eternal life He Jesus MUST have it also John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, BUT BY ME. Find out more free bible lessons www.amazingfacts.org talk to me also [e-mail] God bless