Why do people always miss the point?

Question

I'm going to use two examples here, one religious and one current. Example 1: Jesus preached that everybody should be accepted, regardless of who they are, what religion they are, or how they act. He taught that people should be themselves, rather than who people want them to be and that they should be loved for it. He taught that everyone should love everyone else, no matter what. He died on the cross to put emphasis on his message. So, why do Christians hate non-christians, why do they all act they same? Why don't they do as Jesus taught rather than being blinded by the mythology that came 300 years later?

Example 2: Cho Seung-Hui killed and died because of the way society is. He did what he did becuase of the unfariness of the system, because the rich don't care about the poor, and because those who act differently are alienated and downtrodden. So, why do the fingers point at gun control and mental health? Why don't we hear what he had to say and adress the same issues he did?

Ran out of characters so i'm going to add this: I know the second part might make me sound like a communist. Well, your wrong. I'm an anarchist and before you tell me that I want chaos and lawlessness you should learn that anarchy is about freedom, not chaos.

Responding to Sat and Imparicail. I personally am a pagan though I do strongly believe in Jesus' message of love and acceptance.

And, yes, anarchy is about not letting yourself be ruled. Too many people think it's about spreading chaos, but in essence it's just wanting to be left to one's own devices.

I am aware that not ALL christians are the way I portrayed them (and I am also aware that by thinking as such that I am no better, and I never said I was) but the sweeping majority most certainly is. At least, the one's who make them selves heard are.

I know that what Cho Seung-Hui did was overly violent, and the people he killed (and their families) didn't/don't deserve to suffer, but I don't think Cho was just some wacko who decided to kill people, he did it with a very certain motive.

In response to the question of how anarchy could knock the current system out, well, it can't, but does that mean I can't believe in the principles it stands for?

I am aware that there will always be power struggles, it's human nature, or at least we think it is. But we didn't have these problems (at least not to the same extent) when we lived in small nomadic tribes. World ending event, anyone? In any case, that's another issue altogether.

I am well aware that i'm no better than those i'm against.

Answer 1

Most religions begin as reform movements, answers to a systemic problem. But reform means change, for everyone. People like problems being solved, but they don't like change, especially in themselves. So typically the people who were responsible for the original problems (usually the rich and powerful) co-opt the faith and trivialize the reforms, making them about personal moral shortcomings rather than social injustice, thereby redirecting fault to the people without the resources to be "virtuous". OR, rather than actually changing heart, people reinterpret the new beliefs to accommodate their lifestyle. And the purpose becomes not reform but membership. The more of you there are, the less you have to defend yourself.

Cho overreacted to his perceptions of the injustices of American culture. However psychologically wounded, he was hardly "suffering" like, say, a third-worlder. Too fragile, too weak, he imploded, taking many innocent bystanders with him. As indefensible as his tactics were, he challenged the assumptions and behavior of the culture to which he was always an outsider. So the culture has two choices, either self-examination and possible reform, or further marginalization of this crazy, sick man who wasn't even born in this country and obviously misunderstood the culture. See what's happening? Any admission of guilt demands action, change. That would make people feel bad about themselves and could lead to very inconvenient consequences. So people light candles, ring bells, dip flags, chant names and perform other rituals to demonstrate their combined grief over the VICTIMS that most of them never knew, and their disavowal of the actions of this evil outsider.

Example 3: Suicide bombers must be crazy. How can sacrificing your life to kill and terrorize other people bring anything but shame and condemnation on your cause, no matter how "honorable"? But they aren't crazy. They are simply out of options. Passivity allows injustice to continue. Complaints and demonstrations are ignored. So they resort to violence, half out of a desire to literally erode the perceived "problem", half out of a forlorn hope that someone will sincerely ask, "Why?" They don't worry about what is proper. They only seek what is possibly effective, even if it is negative attention. But time and again, the defendants proclaim their innocent victimization and the cruelty of their accuser, not because it's true but because it distracts from the prior accusation.

People miss the point because it's usually about them. Better to blame than be blamed.

Answer 2

Your first statement although true in the messages that Jesus sent to love one another is VERY false in many ways.
NOT ALL CHRISTIANS hate non-christians and we DO NOT ALL act the same.
Jesus also said that He is the Truth the Light and The Way and No one goes to His Father except through Him. So although we are not to judge and should love one another, a lot of Christians feel it is also their duty to teach people that part of Jesus's message as well.
When they do this, they are accused of shoving their "adgenda" or pushing it on others, when in fact it's often just people Explaining this part of their belief with others. A part that they feel is very important, as important as loving one another.
I readily agree that some DO push it and that not all Christians love everyone by any means. Again though, we are not all alike.

In the example of Cho Seung-Hui, perhaps why people are pointing fingers at gun control etc. is because he didn't have to put forth his "message" in such a terribly violent way.
I am sure there are other ways to make a point.

Answer 3

I can't answer the first question cos I'm not religious.

Your second point is ridiculous. The injustices of society do not lead you or I to commit attrocities so why make excuses for that little ****. We certainly need to rectify the "unfairness of the system" but that is not going to stop some crackpot from killing a load of innocent people.

I understand what an anarchist is but I disagree with it completely. Statelessness does not create the conditions for "freedom" - quite the reverse. Assuming that anarchism simultaneously swept away the present system (-how?) there is still nothing to prevent one community from oppressing another. And within a community, there will always be power struggles. An agenda has to be set and it will be the weak who is shouted down. And there will still be Cho Seung-Hui's...

Answer 4

Its a self-for-filling prophecy. females anticipate adult males to miss the factor so whether we get the factor you think of we did not. This in turn makes adult males not care to get the factor because of the fact it does not look to count if we get it or not. occasion: If a female starts off a controversy with the words "i've got self belief". This sparkling is an emotional argument and not logical so the rest she says shouldn't count considering the shown fact that's barely a feeling and not mandatory the reality and easily reflective on what she feels that's outdoors the area of something anybody can do approximately it.

Answer 5

Its GREED, purely and simply my friend.
If people feel threatened then they will fight for what they believe to be their right regardless as to how this affects others. It is a sorry state of affairs when people judge and condemn others on the basis of material possesions. and on culturally bound morality.
It saddens me deeply and I struggle with it but I try to be a positive energy in my day to day life.
Do to others as you would have done to yourself.
You can address the issues and it WILL make a difference no matter how small it seems at the time. Keep strong and you'll see :0)

Answer 6

people miss the point because someone or something else thinks for them.
if i am a bit on the right path, anarchy is about not letting anyone rule you right?

Answer 7

Humans are stupid. We just only care about ourselves, no matter what Jesus said.

I wish that we could all be fair.

Do you believe in Jesus, or just in his teachings about love and friendship?

Answer 8

They miss the question because it's not sharp enough.

Answer 9

Different minds, I guess...