Is there anyone out there brave enough to sympathize with Cho, Eric, or Dylan?

Question

Can't people wake up and see that these killings weren't simply the senseless acts of confused lunatics?

There is some serious implications with these murders. Society has been glorifying the "jock mentality" for decades, since the baby boom started after WWII. Every American is phsycologically manipulated to believe that he/she is righteous, better, smarter, and more attractive than anybody else. So kids must prove their beliefs in the playground, to reaffirm what's been taught. This means that some kids get the short end of the stick and are forced to swallow all their false beliefs, and if they act out or act disdainful of the fact that they don't fit in, they are treated worse and treated as social outcasts or mentally unfit for society.
This will lead to murders people. I totally believe this. Is there anyone else out there that feels this, or has everyone bought in to the idea that only raving lunatics do these things?

Vertozan,
Thanks for the names. Yes, I sympathize with them too. America kicked them around enough, and they did what they had to do. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. America needs to sit down and shut the hell up. I don't want my family wasted because of the reactions of bullied angy people. So screw all of you self-righteous morons who believe that the only evil done was the LAST evil that was done. You're so stupid. I hope you guys meet the next Cho, Eric, or Dylan, piss your pants in fear, and are sorry for your ways.

Oh, and another thing.....has anybody noticed that America has had THE WORST cases of murders in this fashion? This isn't a coincidence either, people, this is an American phenomenon. A phenomenon of vengeance for wrong doings. Here's an interesting clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh0WGhf2s3U

Answer 1

I don't believe anyone ever does a senseless act. People have reasons. They may not be good ones, or ones we agree with, but everyone does everything according to some system that makes sense to them.

Obviously, people who end up going on killing rampages are coming to conclusions different from most of the rest of us. I think it's also pretty clear that (at least) those people you mention were not happy with what they were doing. I think it's fair to say that they would have much preferred not to have done those things, but they just didn't see any reasonable alternatives.

By most standards, this makes them mentally ill. Which is a term I use for an important reason - ill people can be made well. I don't think any of those people were beyond help. I do really wish we could have gotten to them and given them what they needed and wanted. Not just for the sake of the people that they took out their frustrations on, but also for themselves.

They deserved better. I think all people do. Yes... I definitely can empathize with them.

Answer 2

At the risk of adding fuel to your fire, I agree with most of what you say. I hope your mentally fairly stable and not looking for justification for something.
Cho and most of the others are the ones considered the "weird" kids or the ones not worthy of being in one of "the" cliques. They go mostly unnoticed and ignored. That is until one finally snaps.
You can never justify what they do but it's really not too hard to understand it.There is plenty of blame to go around. Teachers and Administrators are just as guilty of the jock mentality as anyone else. Some even promote that by giving spacial attention or undeserved passing grades to them.
It even continues into the adult/professional world. Athletes, especially star athletes literally get away with murder.
So now Cho was finally noticed and many innocent lives were lost. His mental state will be analyzed and reanalyzed by the media, the talking heads, CNN, MSNBC, the bleeding heart politically correct liberals, Bill Mahr, and every other pontificating bag of empty hot air until the next big breaking story comes along. Maybe just maybe if someone had taken notice OR taken seriously the ones that did notice Cho and done the right thing not the politically correct thing, things like this could be avoided.
None of the innocent victims deserved to bear the final wrath of Cho. I do not sympathize with what he did. We all need to look into a mirror and into ourselves. There are many many young people falling throught the cracks, going unnoticed, trying to find thier way. ALL adults need to keep an eye out, need to offer a hand, need to be on alert, need to reach out. Would it hurt to give five minutes of your valuable time to the kid that isn't popular? You never know what a profound affect that may have on someone.

Answer 3

Stick John Bonham on drums and Freddy Mercury on vocals. that is a few line up lol you have not elaborated as to we are basing this on vocal expertise, song skillability, lyrical skill or techniques and theory. John Lennon grew to become right into a visionary who's ideals touched the international, albeit for a comparatively short while. Bob Dylan is a grasp of recent verse, Eric Clapton is an incredible guitarist. i think of that's a particular call between Morrison and Lennon in the vocals branch, probably basically Lennon although that is totally diverse form. Jim Morrison basically appeared and sounded top fronting The doorways. an remarkable and theory scary question.

Answer 4

I guess if one thing could be learned from these situations it would be for parents to stop expecting their kids to be the prettiest, smartest, most perfect kid in the world and telling them they are a hundred times a day until the kid believes it to. Then the kid gets out into the real world and finds out they are not the prettiest, smartest, and by no means are they perfect and they cannot handle it. Parents should teach kids you don't have to be the best just be yourself and that is good enough then they don't spend their whole life trying to be the best and always falling short of the goal. That is why they need to destroy the kids that they see as having what they can never have. I do not believe there is any excuse for killing someone else if you are that screwed up put yourself out of your misery and leave others out of it but I do agree with your point.

Answer 5

I think they were victims too but I am sorry there is no excuse for taking a life for any reason. I hate that our society is so screwed up and we turn our backs on things that make us uncomfortable but to kill someone. Parents need to take a more proactive role in ensuring their children are protected. If your child is bullied deal with it. If your child suffers from depression deal with it. I do not believe for one minute that a parent of any of these kids did not know there was a problem. It they did not know then how involved were they with their children. There had to be signs. Parents now days use television and Nintendo to baby sit rather than getting kids outside to play, be physical and exercises their bodies and minds. Our world is becoming more f'd up every day because of laziness. America is a crazy, scary place to live these days....

Answer 6

I understand what Cho, Eric, and Dylan must have went through, but not to asuch a large extent. I have been bullied most all of my life, but I have learned to cope with it and stay happy. Now I try to help other outcasts, and I get along with everybody. I cannot say I have been in their shoes, because they most likely had it a lot harder than me. But what I can say is that maybe they could have tried to find a better outlet.

Answer 7

I have no sympathy for them. I only wish they would have just killed themselves before they killed other people. Yes, some kids are more "accepted" than others and some are ridiculed growing up. Really, deal with it. Do you think that because some rich kid picked on this guy or some girl he liked turned him down gives him the right to go shooting random people? There is a cause for everything that happens. That doesn't mean its right. There are plenty of places in the world where people deal with real problems like disease or food shortage and this guy is whining because someone has a nicer car or better x-box. Yeah, my heart really go's out to him.

Answer 8

I do not have any sympathy for anyone who takes a life. These people are using bullying as an excuse to do some crazy crime like murder. This is all crap. You know that what ever you do in life will be judged one day.
God help all the insane people in this world, dont hurt others because you cant handle life.

Answer 9

I'm sorry but being bullied is no justification for senseless murder. Society is not responsible for this. It seems Cho was hardly a person who could make a rational decision. He was mentally unstable to the point he was living in his own world. His family in Korea said he was out of it even as a child. It seems you yourself have issues on this and I do sympathize with you on that. I wasn't fond of being bullied either.

Answer 10

As much as it sucks to be bullied, people aren't forced to make insane, rage-driven decisions. They weren't "driven" to murder, they choose to kill rather than deal with it appropriately. The have to hone up to their actions and people shouldn't find someone to blame. They should focus all that energy into finding the cause of the outlash and prevent it. Still, with that, make people understand that there are choices other than rash decisions. Cho, Eric, and Dylan wanted a quick fix to their on-going delima. They couldn't be mature and put more thought into their grief. They did what little children do when they don't get their way, throw a temper-tantram, rather than think things through. There is no pitty from me, but I will do what I can to prevent it from happening again.