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Whenever I get into a sparring match I normally use double strikes followed with a kick, cause most people cannot block it and I normally score like crazy even though I am competing against higher belt levels within my dojo. (I’m the only white belt in there) We use semi-full contact sparring. I have an great country game blocking and directing the strike for me to get a wrist lock and/ or arm lock. Now I’m not sure if that a double strike with a kick would work in a real fight so I was wondering if this was effective in the street? Thank you in advance!

2007-04-19 14:48:07 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports Martial Arts

County: I meant counter.

2007-04-19 14:49:07 · update #1

9 answers

No martial arts should ever be considered for training in a street fight.

If you find yourself in an altercation that you cannot get out of, you are going to want to overwhelm and dominate your adversary. Your main goal is to not "score points" but to prevail in the fight. There are thousands of scenarios that you may find yourself in, so theres never a set rule of "I'm going to throw this combo".
You may find yourself pinned against a wall, confronted by two individuals, blind sided with a punch, etc. You cannot live with the mentality that if you get into a street fight you're going to throw a "double strike, followed with a kick" because its impractical to predict the situation and you're liable to get really hurt or killed. Street fights are "a spontaneous and violent confrontation between two or more individuals wherein no rules apply."
The main point in that is "no rules"... so consider the techniques you learn within your dojo, and remember that training for sport is ultimately different than training for the street.

2007-04-19 15:52:42 · answer #1 · answered by Mike G 1 · 0 0

Sparring and Fighting are so diff. you shouldn't consider them as anything close to being related. I may be jaded but I, with 100% certainty, believe that most kicks, above the waist and any sparring tech. will not help you in a real fight. Unless the person you fight knows nothing, I mean nothing about fighting. All those blocks, out the window. All the high, flashy kicks mean only one thing on the street. It means you'll get hurt. Don't get me wrong the Art of martial arts have a reason, just not in a real fight. My best advice is to be very careful if you think you will be able to use that point sparring stuff on the street. Again, mabe you'll get lucky and the person you fight knows 0 about fighting, then you have a shot.

2007-04-20 02:10:18 · answer #2 · answered by Zenshin Academy 3 · 0 0

To a point, yes. Especially with regards to footwork and the most basic techniques. But combinations not necessarily nor order of movements. My Shihan is known for his random fighting, he believes random attacks instead of basic combinations that others use, mix up your timing essentially. Because he's my teacher I take that on as well, so while my footwork and basics can be seen just like kata, the order, direction, and combinations won't. Kata isn't meant to be visually pleasing even if it does look cool. Good training should in theory get rid of the choreographed movement simply because if it relies too much on a known kata or series then the opponent will catch on and manipulate that. You're right, training overcomes natural responses if trained enough... Another example is the US Secret Service when Reagan was shot: The guys in the area who were former military hit the deck when the shots rang out (as they were trained) and the guys who were Secret Service stayed standing up and got in front of the President (as they were trained). Enough training also stays with you even when you're not in training by muscle memory (but that's only if you've trained a whole lot and nobody will know how much is sufficient for that). Also agree with your Krav Maga statement. Very few soldiers will actually get into a h2h engagement, they rely more on teamwork and lots of lead. If a guy's weapon jams his buddy is probably going to shoot the bad guy before he can start throwing punches, and a trained martial artist is probably going to beat a SEAL any day of the week when it comes to h2h, but in a team setting with weaponry the SEAL is at his finest. In fact the only rare times I've heard of soldiers getting into hand-to-hand combat stuff is when they are separated (a Marine officer in a different house, a Marine sniper away from a bigger group). I would say overall that if your movement and techniques when you are sparring do not look like your kata then it depends on what exactly those are. I think footwork is one huge thing that should be based in kata, but at the same time random attacks have merit since you don't want to be predictable. So individual movements, yes, the series and combinations, I do not think so.

2016-05-19 02:20:08 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The problem is just that alot of martial artist do not train in self defense techniques. They do more sparring and stuff like that wich are good but wont help in real life.

People train in the offensive way more than training in self defense techniques who will work also in sparrings matchs and competitions and in real life situations.

People should train in self defense techniques and interception moves first, then on attacking moves. People focus on attacking, wich makes them not able to think well according to the other persons movement. The fact that they attack alot only, is why they ask themselves if this or that will work in real life.
My philosophy is to never attack first, unless you see a big opening, if you counter something that is trown at you, the impact will be bigger, and you will be automaticly at the advantage since your countering and you know whgat you are doing becose uve learned the technique your are peforming. While the other guy doesnt know at all what you are doing. Kinda hard to understand, but this is my way.

In other words, focus on defensive skills/interception/self defense techniques way more than attacking techniques like comming up with 2 pucnsh and a kick wich isnt a good way of thinking. Also the way Bruce Lee fought in his demonstration is kinda like what i just said, defensive skills.

Edit: Reversal: This doesnt apply when you are fighting on the ground, on the ground do the contrary. Focus more on attacking

2007-04-19 15:51:37 · answer #4 · answered by bodler 2 · 0 0

Only if the kick is to the groin. Even then, the chances of it connecting is 50-50 at best since most opponents on the street will be on guard against such attack and probably won't stay still long enough for you to hit it square on target. Besides, most street fights I know of usually involves the use of knives or icepicks, at least in my neck of the woods. Best way to ensure victory in a streetfight is to pick up a weapon, whether it's a pipe, stick, bottle, anything to take him out more efficiently. Bowing and going into fighting stances will only give them time to pull out their weapons and then you'd be in a world of trouble.

2007-04-22 05:30:31 · answer #5 · answered by Shienaran 7 · 0 0

I used to have the problem your sparring partners did. here is some ideas to look for.
1 are their elbows tight. if they are no mid section kick are head kick will work unless set up.
2 if there elbows are out then thee kicks will work.
3 it sounds like your opponents move back when the punches are thrown which puts them in kicking range. if that is the case it will not work in a street fight. when your opponent is extremely pissed off or drunk he will not back or due to a couple of punches.
My suggestion is spar like that. have one person act like they wanna kill you and see if it works. there is no way to really tell over the Internet.
I hope I helped

2007-04-19 17:50:42 · answer #6 · answered by Ash 6 · 0 0

When it comes to street fighting it is best to keep things simple.
The answerer above is correct,pre-planned stuff is most often ineffective.
You "can" think along the lines of odds.
Odds are most people are right handed
Odds are your opponenet will throw a right punch
Etc,etc,etc

2007-04-19 15:28:30 · answer #7 · answered by ? 6 · 0 0

Speaking solely on my past experiences, I would say yes. After that initial combo though, you should do your best to get the upper hand in a grapple, because that's where those fights generally end up.

2007-04-19 14:56:08 · answer #8 · answered by Fal 2 · 0 0

no planned attack will work in a fight.street fights and sparring are apples and oranges

2007-04-19 15:01:19 · answer #9 · answered by skatew677 2 · 2 1

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