For Christians that want religion and or prayer in public schools?

Question

Why not just send your kids to a private school?

and if its an issue of money I am sure that their is a Christian school that can give you a break on tuition if you really cannot afford it.

And before you get irate at me, I plan to do the same thing. My kids will also go to a religious private school, at least until they finish middle school. At that point I will allow them to decide where they want to go for high school.

So again Christians why can’t you do the same? Instead of trying to change our public education system.

paul q- I am talking about a group prayer as part of the school or class. Not your own personal prayer.

brian n- be serious. If I do not believe that the south lost the civil war dose that mean the entire subject should not be taught in school.

brian- goverment documents with seperation of church and state

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States#Supreme_Court_since_1947

dog sneeze- I am in favor of school vouchers btw

Answer 1

I go to Public school and no one cares if I pray or not. What is the problem? I pray before meals and also whenever I feel like it and I have had no one annoy me or stop me. Who am I bothering?

Answer 2

I have been to several schools up through my masters degree. The worst two schools I attended were public. Low standards and expectations. The best schools were private. I would send my kids to a private school or home school.

The only objection I can see to your offer is that everyone pays taxes. While I was attending private schools, I was paying for public education, too. Some people might not want to pay the state for a service they are not using.

Answer 3

Where I live, there is still Christianity in the school.
Of course, I live in Southern Alabama.
I like it here, it is one of the last places where we still put up the Nativity at Christmas time on the Court House lawn, and another one at the Public Park.
The little WalMar here never considered "Happy Giftmas".
If you go inside the Court House, you will see posters everywhere that say "In God We Trust", and if you mention it to anyone, they will quickly tell you that it is still our national motto, and make them take it down, if you dare!
Here, people have had the nerve to stand up for their Constitutional rights. There are prayers said over the PA system at football games. Teachers can and do speak to their students about faith issues.
Until some moron brings the ACLU into it, I think we're doing just fine.
Our kids are taught to shoot, to plant their own food, and to drive at a very early age...they are pretty darn tuff. I don't think any wilting flower from "somewhere where we are more civillized" needs to try to take their religion away from them. Our cutest seventh grade cheerleader could take him out with one chop of her dainty little arm.
Now, I was raised in Upstate NY, but that was back in the fifties and sixties, when everyone was pretty much Christian, anyhow, so it really didn't matter.
Yeah....I like it right here...........

Answer 4

I was in Los Angeles City Schools the day that 'That' happened! 'That was a Very Bad Day for Everyone! Now, look at schools - look what happened to Madelyn O'Hara (sp?). Her son a 'Preacher' now and says, "That was one of Gravest things that my mother ever did!"

Separation of Church and State - DO NOT EXIST IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!

I Have it on my computer on Word - which I have five Searches under 'Find' the results; "NOT FOUND".

I also have my physical copy of it from 1976 and guess what?? It's NOT THERE!!!

Now, some on these Blogs are saying that what we are writing "IS NOT TRUE!" Well Check this out yourself - IT'S NOT THERE!!!!!!! You Will See for Yourselves that I am right on this!!!! And, Truthful!
We need prayer in schools! Look at all of the violence and seeing children killed and young people killed!!!!!!!! NO, I didn't want my children killed!

Schools went WAY DOWN HILL FROM 'THAT' DAY WHEN PRAYER WAS TAKEN OUT!!!!!!

Peace to All - Take Care and God Bless!

Answer 5

Your idea sounds great on paper, Gratvol, but it's truly not an option for many American families -- my own, for example.

I am a single mother, who receives no child support from my ex-husband. Years ago, my kid and I lived in the inner-city area of one of the Nation's worse cities. Although I had (and still have) a great job, this was all I could afford. For security reasons, my children were sent to a private Christian school once they were ready for middle school. It nearly bankrupted my family. Loans were not an option and the "student aid" offered by this Catholic-run school was so minimal, it was a joke.

Then, on top of that, I had to purchase multiple uniforms for each child (at ridiculously inflated prices, with the profit going into the school's coffers, which is awful, considering the Catholic Church's wealth); gym uniforms; books; and other supplies which would normally be provided by the public school system -- which, by the way, I continued to pay taxes toward because the U.S. refuses to grant tax breaks to low-income parents sending their children to private schools.

And, to add insult to injury, the education my kids received was so sub-par that I had to correct much of what they were being taught. Also of issue is that my kids were being taught Catholic doctrine, which conflicts with our Protestant beliefs -- so again, I had to re-educate them after each and every Bible class.

As a child, I grew up in a VERY rural area in the South. Parents were given the option of permitting their children to participate in Bible classes and before-school prayer. The classes were given twice a week during recess. No one ever complained and no one was forced to attend. As a tax-paying citizen, I see nothing wrong with this. What I DO think is wrong is that our society is attempting to remove all aspects of Judeo-Christian life from our schools. As a Jew, I would think this bothers you, too. After all, I defend your childrens' right to pray in school as well.

p.s. -- Brian is correct -- the First Amendment of the Constitution does NOT require separation of Church and State. What it DOES require is that this Nation refrain from establishing one, approved, centralized religion that influences the government. The notion that the 1st Amendment requires this country to rid itself of all mention of religion is liberal garbage.

Answer 6

Think about your question carefully. Why would we send our kids to private schools and then fight so hard for prayer to return to public schools? Does that make any sense?

So according to your thinking, we can share the Gospel and praise the Lord only in certain places. I fail to see the freedom of religion in this line of thought. We should be teaching our children that it is not a crime to pray before you eat lunch or before they take a test, yet it is considered wrong to do this in a public school.

Please explain the logic in this.

Answer 7

There might not be public schools in that area. Or from experience Christian schools do not always teach Christian values. I spent two years at a Lutheran School in LaPorte Indiana and the kids were cruel, for lack of a better word.

Answer 8

do you really want to entrust a stranger to your child's religious upbringing.

how many times to you actually meet a teacher. 2 maybe 3 times per teacher, if that?

seems to me that you would not want them being the biggest religious influence that your child will ever have.

who knows what they may be teaching your child about your god. or what your god thinks is ok.

keep prayer in the churches. and as a private thing.

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it is LEGAL to pray in any public school. it just is not legal for school officials to lead it. or for it to be done witht he use or aid of school equipment.

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i agree if you want organised prayer in school send them to a private christian school.

Answer 9

Exactly. Send the kids to a private school and if religion in school is THAT goddamned important to you (xtians), then take a second mortgage to pay the tuition, otherwise shut the f u u u u c k up about it.

Answer 10

Just as much as you pay taxes to support a public school so do I. Things such as evolution which I do not believe in are taught there so why not give Christians equal access. Everyone wants to exclude Christian beliefs but dont want to get rid of there own. If we want to get rid of everything to be fair and make it just math, reading and the like then ok I am good to go.


I have asked this so many times it is not funny. I challenge anyone to find separation of church and state in any government document. It is not there and do not imply find just that separation of church and state.

Just as I would hope for you had to go for a court decision. The thoughtless left always quoted Jefferson for separation of church and state which is the furthest thing from the truth. In the Constitution or the bill of rights there is nothing not one thing that supports the separation of church and state. Besides it is my tax money to not just yours that supports the public school system. I dont want to pay for it but I do as it is the biggest waste of money in our system. I should have the choice of to pay for public school or not.