IS GLOBAL WARMING A MYTH? I Believe so. What do you think?

Question

The earth goes through these changes all the time. These are cycles that can be shown to have happened way before humans existed.

Answer 1

The theory of man-made global warming is false. Rather than just giving evidence proving that global warming is based on misrepresented evidence I will directly address the points made by global warming scientists. If you do not plan on reading my post (I know it is long) I would ask you to watch this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=great+global+warming+swindle this video makes many of the points I will be making. Now I will list the points that global warming scientists make: 1. CO2 causes an increase in global temperature. 2. The IPCC has produced a report on the issue. 3. Computer models predict what we are saying. 4. There is a scientific consensus on the issue/all major scientists agree on man-made global warming/the only people who disagree are paid by the oil companies. 5. Major Politicians, CEO’s, scientists, etc agree. 6. Even if there is a chance that global warming is real we should do everything we can, it can’t hurt.

1. This is the main point made by global warming scientists. Data does in fact show that temperature and CO2 are correlated, however the nature of the correlation has been overlooked. Global warming scientists say that an increase of CO2 causes global temperatures to rise, but this is not the case; a rise in global temperatures causes a rise in CO2. Using the same graph featured in “An Inconvenient Truth”, (the graph where Al Gore goes up on the cherry picker, the data from the ice core), the graph clearly shows a lag in CO2 as compared to global temperature. Temperature starts to go up 800 years before CO2 begins to rise. This happens because of the oceans. CO2 released by natural or man-made sources is mostly absorbed into the ocean, when the global temperature raises it gradually increases the ocean temperature which releases CO2 and other gasses into the atmosphere. Also most of the warming occurred before 1940 when industrialization was not as great. One would believe that if global warming is tied to CO2 it would accelerate in the post WWII period, but it didn’t. The globe actually cooled for 4 decades after WWII, when industrialization was the greatest. Now take a look at our atmosphere as it relates to greenhouse gasses. CO2 makes up .03% of our atmosphere, a very small amount of our atmosphere. Other greenhouse gasses like water vapor make up 1-4% of the atmosphere. Now take a look at where CO2 comes from, all human activity combined produces 6.5Gt of CO2 per year. Volcanoes alone match that number. All animals combined (meaning respiration, decomposition, etc) produce 150Gt of CO2. So humans produce a very small amount of CO2 which itself makes up a very small amount of our atmosphere. Water vapor is acknowledged to be the major greenhouse gas, and all of that is produced via evaporation (i.e. naturally).
I know some of you may be thinking “ha, he acknowledges the greenhouse effect.” To you I ask you to read a science textbook, the greenhouse effect is real and plays a very important role in maintaining a livable temperature on the earth. Global warming scientists cite the greenhouse effect via our emission CO2 as the source of global warming. They are disproved by their own words. As I said before the greenhouse effect is real and causes heat to become trapped in the troposphere which warms the earth. So if human emission of CO2 is to be blamed we would expect the troposphere to be warming and thus increasing the surface temperature (the temperature cited on global warming graphs) of the earth but look for yourself: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature/, the troposphere is actually cooling, only the surface temperature is rising. This warming is not due to the greenhouse effect it is due to the sun.
It makes sense, the sun is the ultimate source of all of our energy. Studies have shown that the effect of sunspots much more closely correlates to the rise in temperatures. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sunspot_Numbers.png, http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html.
http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/space_weather/
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/17jan_solcon.htm
The other planets in our solar system are also warming. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html,
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977.
All this data points to the sun as the source for our current warming, and what about those ice core studies? http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/ninelieslaunch.pdf#search=%22vostok%20figure%20125%22
Here are the results of the ice core studies they show a very cyclic effect in regard to global temperatures. The global warming crowd also argues that weather disturbances will become more likely but the actual numbers show no increase. Oh and the glaciers, they have retreated and advanced every year since the earth began, they melt in the summer and build up in the winter.

2. The IPCC, http://www.ipcc.ch/, is the main source of data for those in support of global warming, and has been very controversial. In a prior report a graph, the so called “hockey stick” graph, was shown to be forged. A reprint of the report had to be issued but the damage was done. The fake graph was the main point made in the report, all data rested on its accuracy. When an independent review took place the data used to make the graph was shown to be made up, that’s a fact even the IPCC admitted the fraud. Now allegations have been made that the IPCC has censored the report and refused to take scientists names off the contributors list. Contributing scientists have alleged that their passages, which were critical of man-made global warming, were taken out of the report. 15 passages in all are alleged to have been cut from the report. Scientists have also said that their names are on the contributors list even though they left the committee after finding their objections to global warming were ignored. These scientists left the committee but the IPCC refused to take their names off the contributors list so that they can claim all major scientists agree with them. The IPCC is a heavily partisan committee that went into session fully knowing that their report would be in favor of global warming, any scientist who disagreed was censored.

3. Computer models are predictions; they are based on hundreds of assumptions. If even one assumption is wrong the whole model is incorrect. Every computer model is based off the assumption that man is the main cause of global warming, which if you’ve read the above paragraphs, should be questioned. Another disparity occurs in the amount of CO2 released, most models have two times the amount of CO2 being released than is actually seen. You may wonder why these programmers are being so bold with their outrageous assumptions; the fact is these models predict the climate 50 to 100 years from now. These programmers will be retired or dead before their models can be proven accurate or inaccurate.

4. This is the most blatant lie made by the global warming crowd; there is no scientific consensus on this issue. Here are the names of over 17,000 scientists who disagree. http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm This lie of scientific consensus is purely propaganda meant to make you believe without evidence. Consider for a second, what does scientific consensus mean? This may sound silly but imagine that all the scientific community got together and decided that humans can fly unassisted, does this mean it’s true, no. Science is not politics, issues are not voted on, and truth is not based on which outcome is most accepted, if it was we would be the center of the universe not to mention the earth would be flat. Those were the scientific consensus of the time, but experimentation has proved them to be wrong.

5. A recent poll has shown that only 8% of the population believes that global warming is not man-made. Everyone else believes global warming is man-made and this will affect the world either in this generation or sometime soon. This accounts for the support of politicians and CEO’s. Politicians see their constituents believe global warming and the politician jumps on the global warming band-wagon to get votes. CEO’s and presidents of corporations also see the poll data and try and get customers by pledging their support. Price differences between stores are often not that great, so leaders of these corporations want to gain customers based on “morals.” Scientists love the global warming hype; more and more funding is being poured into various institutions for scientists to use. Scientists find applying for grants easier with this increase in money. Scientists can get media face time and get studies published before moving on to their real interests. You may wonder why so many ordinary people believe in global warming even though all the evidence disagrees. The fact is global warming dissenters are ignored. The media airs only stories in support of global warming; many people don’t even know that there is a legitimate opposition to global warming. And the claim that the only people who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is unfounded, its mudslinging. That claim is just as founded as the claim that all those in support of global warming are paid by the major environmental conservation companies.
The global cooling scare can show where this is current scare will take us. If you don’t remember this scare I’ll explain. In 1974 scientists were convinced that the globe was cooling so fast that we would soon enter a new ice age. The media portrayed it as fact, committees were put together and came out with the global cooling conclusion, a scientific consensus was called. Ordinary people were scared that the world would end and what happened? We now have global warming a 180 from the ice age we were supposed to enter. Global warming is the exact same scare as global cooling. You’d think that people would have acknowledged global climate cycles by now.

6. This claim has been made more popular recently; it’s called the preventative principle. This may seem to be the end all global warming argument. However this statement just conveys ignorance. You, in your rich country in your house or apartment and on your computer, will not be affected by the precautionary principle. These changes to alternate energy would apply worldwide, and it is a fact that these energy options are currently much more expensive than coal and oil. Take Africa for example, a continent made up of mainly third world countries. How do you expect the poorest people in the world to ignore their coal and gas resources in favor of very expensive alternate energies? They can not afford it but the UN via the IPCC expects them to switch over. Also the US alone spends over 4 billion dollars on global warming research, that money could be much better used to promote any number of charity programs.

If you read my post or watched the video you should at least have been prompted to take a fresh look at global warming as an unproven theory. It is no lie I do not believe in man-made global warming, my purpose in writing this is not to completely convince you global warming is false. I wrote this to wake people up from blindly following the global warming crowd. I urge you to look at global warming and take in consideration arguments made by scientists who oppose global warming. Your time, vote, money, and liberties are being taken in the name of global warming.
Start with these links:
http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V8/N46/EDIT.jsp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.html
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/

Answer 2

U are right but look at this . The environmentalist are the ones that said the green house gas was responsible. CO2 was a major problem but there is a conflict God or mother nature put plants here to take care of the CO2 so the problem has already been taken care of.
The terrible methane gas ,they put out all this info on how much is causing this global warming. I have some pretty good instruments and I can not find any. Methane is light so they think there is a great lake of methane in our upper atmosphere . I still can not find it. Methane is very explosive ,if there was a large lake of it in our upper atmosphere a plane would of run through it a little ways before it blow-ed the wings off. Is it all just lies????

Answer 3

The planet is warming.. However, I don't know if it's caused by humans or the natural life cycle of the earth.. No one can really know the answer to that.. All we can do is speculate..

When I hear programs talking about how our actions are affecting the planet with global warming.. I change the channel because I know it's a bunch of crap set out to change you and the way you think..

Ultimately, people have to think for themselves.

History tells us that this planet has gone through many cycles.. there weren't any cars back then or a massive world population... so what caused those changes?? think for yourself...Logic is key to any mode of thinking...

Answer 4

How can you say that you believe it is a myth and then say that it has gone through cycles of this before?

Global warming is NOT a myth! Global warming is a warming trend that does and has occurred many times in the lifetime of the Earth.
The difference in this period of global warming compared to other cycles that the Earth has naturally gone through is the addition of man and industry.
The Earth has only dealt with it's own natural process of warming and cooling and has not yet experienced a cycle of warming that can be attributed to any thing other than natural causes...until NOW.

The industrial revolution adds another variable into the equation of the Earth's warming process. One that we have yet to see if the Earth's inhabitants can survive through.

To say that this has happened before and everything is fine is ignorant.

This set of circumstances has NOT existed before and does now... so the outcome is unknown and will be different than before. The effects of this new set of circumstances are being questioned because no one KNOWS what the outcome will be and the projection of this new set of circumstances facing us is dismal.

If ingredients are changed the result will be different than before. What is so hard to understand about that?

Answer 5

Globlal warming is true - but not for the reasons they think. Increased chemicals in the air caused by humans may be a miniscule part of the problem - but how arrogant do we have to be to think that we can do some serious damage to this planet?

Earth has survived comet impacts and is bombarded with radiation daily that would turn our skin inside out.

Nothing we do is going to make this place uninhabitable.

The fact is, we don't know enough about the earth to even begin to make assumptions as serious as the catastrophes 'global warming' implies.

Scientists like to say that because the earth is a certain way in a certain place now, temperatures were a certain way 5000 years ago and that is not the kind of science I like to put faith in.. I like raw facts and data, not conjecture.

I firmly believe that humans overall overestimate their importance/impact on this planet.

Answer 6

Q: IS GLOBAL WARMING A MYTH? I Believe so. What do you think?
A: It doesn't matter what you or I think. What matters is what people studying this have found out. This is too serious an issue to just have an opinion on it. Go look up some research.
- And remember, this issue will have the most effect on...YOU, yourself! So out of selfish interest, you owe it to yourself to find the most accurate data possible, because it will be YOU who's affected.
Check what the objective, neutral business groups and the US government security groups like the Pentagon have to say:

Insurance business is looking very closely into global warming, because it is starting to become very expensive, causing too much damage and insurance claims (eg. Katrina).
"The global insurance industry leads the corporate world in acknowledging the reality of climate change...it's entirely in their interest to examine the science behind global warming as closely as possible, and not to play political games."
See: http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/003583.html
. The PENTAGON is very concerned about global warming.
"We will pay to reduce greenhouse gas emissions today … or we'll pay the price later in military terms. And that will involve human lives." Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, quoted in the Los Angeles Times
See: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/19/tech/main2704552.shtml
. Also the former chief economist of the World Bank, said: "global warming could cost the world's economies up to 20 percent of their gross domestic product if urgent action is not taken to stop floods, storms and natural catastrophes."
In another article he said the effects would be worse than those of the depression of the 1930's and WWII.
See: http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=warming28&date=20061028

However, "mC" has some good points - his link to the wiki article on the controvesy over global warming is good.
Obviously, we don't know the future. We are just trying to predict. But you have to look at what are the DANGERs if we don't take global warming seriously enough. Yes, we may be taking action that is unnecessary if the global warming extreme weather doesn't occur in the future.

But, isn't unnecessary action better than not taking action and then getting seriously screwed if global warming is occuring???
I thought the saying was: "BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY"??

Answer 7

Global warming is not a myth. The theory that man has caused global warming is.

The theory of the consequences of global warming is. During the times of the Vikings temperatures were so warm that Greenland was colonized. They even grew gapes.
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/greenland/ If the earth survived that warming period it will survive again, even if the theory holds true.
The theory of climate change is. Hurricanes become less during warming periods, not more. http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/disasters/001177chris_landsea_on_new.html

Here are some quotes to ponder:

D. Deming, Science 1995
“With the publication of the article in Science [in 1995], I
gained significant credibility in the community of scientists
working on climate change. They thought I was one of
them, someone who would pervert science in the service of
social and political causes. So one of them let his guard
down. A major person working in the area of climate
change and global warming sent me an astonishing email
that said “We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm
Period.”
Source: Presentation by S McIntyre At Conference Stockholm Sweden, September 9 2006
This is the period that the Vikings colonized Greenland. You can see why they have to get rid of it. Major problem. So Dr Man came out with the "hockey stick graph" were they did just that "get rid of the medieval warm period". And this graph was widely accepted by the paleoclimate scientists, without any scrutiny. This lead to the Wegman report that concluded: "
In our further exploration of the social
network of authorships in temperature
reconstruction, we found that at least 43
authors have direct ties to Dr. Mann by
virtue of coauthored papers with him. Our
findings from this analysis suggest that
authors in the area of paleoclimate studies
are closely connected and thus
‘independent studies’ may not be as
independent as they might appear on the
surface."

The attitudes of many climatologists can be summed up with this one: "Scientist’s need “to get some broader based
support, to capture the public’s imagination...that,
of course, entails getting loads of media coverage.
So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make
simplified dramatic statements, and make little
mention of any doubts we may have…each of us
has to decide what the right balance is between
being effective and being honest.
Stephen Schneider, Senior Fellow at the Center for Environment Science and Policy of
the Institute for International Studie, and Professor by Courtesy in the Department of Civil
and Environmental Engineering at Stanford University, Discover Magazine."

How can people still trust these self serving climatologists is beyond me.

Answer 8

1) It is not a myth.

2) It does happen naturally, and data indicates it is occurring now.

3) Human industry contributes to global warming.

Answer 9

If all the six billion humans on the planet earth cut a fart at the same time, would that increase global warming or blow the atmosphere away?

Answer 10

Global warming is happening--its been scientifically proven that certain chemicals cause the ozone to gradually disappear. It's not a myth in my opinion.

Answer 11

I think it's real; maybe all the things they attribute to it may not be. Anytime someone asks for money because of Global warming I am inclined to be suspicious. Like the war on drugs; Still plenty of drugs around but we didn't get a refund on our taxes that were supposed to solve the problem.