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Gonzales:
"there was a meeting in October with the president in which the president, as I understand it, relayed to me similar concerns about pursuing election fraud –"

Federal judges were saying voter ID laws might be unnecessary laws - laws against a rare crime, which, as a (imho, intentional) side-effect would suppress many qualified voters. Nobody has intentionally risked prison just to illegally cast one vote (which is what voter ID is about). So Bush pushed Attorneys to prosecute bogus cases. Has there ever been a single conviction of anybody for voting under a false name? If not, what's the ID requirement for, if not to suppress legitimate voters who lack ID (i.e. no car, thus no Drivers License)? Honest attorneys refused to prosecute bogus cases, so Bush fired them. If that is true, it is ample grounds for impeachment.

2007-04-19 07:24:34 · 5 answers · asked by Ray Eston Smith Jr 6 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

DriverAnderson - please cite even one case where somebody was convicted of walking into a polling booth & trying to vote with a dead person's identity. Real voter fraud occurs among officials who might slip in a boxful of phony ballots. Nobody does voter fraud one-by-one, which is the non-existent crime voter-ID laws are supposedly trying to prevent.

2007-04-19 08:24:11 · update #1

Here's an excellent link with most of the facts (except it leaves out the part about voter fraud fraud):
http://www.themorningnews.org/archives/scandal_cheat_sheet/the_purgegate_primer.php

Bush also fired all Attorneys when he took office. The difference here is the mid-term firing of Attorneys he himself had promoted. Being good attorneys & Republicans wasn't good enough for Bush. He wanted yes-men with no ethics to prevent them from accepting his corrupt dictation.

2007-04-20 08:21:24 · update #2

Late November 2004


Ed Cassidy, chief of staff for Representative Doc Hastings (R-WA), contacts U.S. Attorney John McKay (WA) following the 2004 gubernatorial election. Cassidy inquires whether McKay will pursue investigations of voter fraud. In later testimony (3/7/07), McKay recalls, "I stopped him and I told him that I was sure that he wasn't asking me on behalf of his boss to reveal information about an ongoing investigation or to lobby me on one, because we both knew that would be improper. He agreed that it would be improper and ended the conversation in a most expeditious fashion."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/usa-timeline.php

2007-04-20 08:29:14 · update #3

July 5, 2005
In a letter to Representative Doc Hastings (R-WA), Tom McCabe demands that Hastings "ask the White House to replace Mr. McKay," for not adequately pursuing the voter fraud allegations in the 2004 gubernatorial race. Hastings later confirms this but says, "I flat out refused to do so, which [Hastings' chief of staff] Ed Cassidy told him in the bluntest of terms."


June 21, 2006
Mickey Barnett and Pat Rogers, both prominent Republican attorneys in New Mexico, meet with Monica Goodling to vent frustrations about U.S. Attorney David Iglesias' handling of voter fraud investigations.

October 11, 2006
Bush passes to Gonzales complaints he has heard that some U.S. Attorneys are not adequately pursuing voter-fraud investigations. According to the Justice Department, Gonzales does not recall the conversation.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/usa-timeline.php

2007-04-20 08:34:58 · update #4

Senator Leahy asks what Sampson knew about complaints regarding voter fraud investigations by US Attorney David Iglesias. Sampson does not recall hearing any complaints. However, Sampson says, "I do remember learning from the Attorney General that he had received a complaint from Karl Rove."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/usa-timeline.php

2007-04-20 08:36:07 · update #5

Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.

Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party elections, about 120 people have been charged and 85 convicted as of last year.

Most everyone charged has been a Democrat, voting records show. Many of those the Justice Department concentrated on appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules, a review of court records and interviews with prosecutors and defense lawyers show.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2007/04/13/natvotefraud0413a.html

2007-04-20 08:48:20 · update #6

A federal panel, the Election Assistance Commission, reported last year that the pervasiveness of fraud was debatable. That conclusion played down findings of the consultants who said there was little evidence of it across the country, according to a review of the original report.
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Though the original report said that among experts "there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud," the final version of the report concluded in its summary that "there is a great deal of debate on the pervasiveness of fraud."

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/printedition/2007/04/13/natvotefraud0413a.html

2007-04-20 08:50:08 · update #7

5 answers

Clinton fired the attorneys at the beginning of his term BEFORE the bogus Whitewater investigations. Bush fired attorneys after an election which saw Republicans lose both houses of Congress. Democrats made several gains thanks to several indictments and convictions of Republican Congressional Representatives. One of the fired attorneys successfully prosecuted Randy Duke Cunningham of corruption.
It is ironic that Republicans accuse Democrats of whining over election fraud in the 2000 election, yet constantly bring up the bogus issue of supposedly dead Democratic voters. Voter ID is obviously an attempt to discourage poor people and minorities from voting.

2007-04-19 09:03:47 · answer #1 · answered by wyldfyr 7 · 1 1

Prior to Indiana implementing an ID law dead people and empty lots cast votes in DEMOCRAT districts, and now that problem does not happen here anymore. I want real voters to vote.Bush had every right to fire those LIBERAL Attourneys just as Clinton had the same right to fire all of them.93 were fired, The AG will remain happily to your consternation.

2007-04-19 07:38:31 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Nope -
Clinton fired all 93 - including the one investigating Whitewater
and replaced them with a crony from school -

which took care of that investigation
for a while

2007-04-19 07:34:24 · answer #3 · answered by tom4bucs 7 · 1 2

The media got quite excited about Bush firing a few attorneys. What they (conveniently) forget is that Clinton fired 93 attorneys.

2007-04-19 07:35:32 · answer #4 · answered by BobbyD 4 · 0 2

That's a good one.

Send it to Schumer so he can make Gonzalez prove it is false.

2007-04-19 07:28:38 · answer #5 · answered by Philip McCrevice 7 · 0 0

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