You can't assume as existent the very thing whose existence is in question.... can you??
Can I do the same thing, but with another deity? "I can't prove Quetzalcoatl to you, only Quetzalcoatl can do that". Does that mean you're ACTUALLY going to first assume that Quetzalcoatl DOES exist and then ask him to prove it to you?
2007-04-19 05:48:58 · 14 answers · asked by ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT•• 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Dog Sneeze, you didn't answer the rest of my question...
2007-04-19 05:56:41 · update #1
penguin... no.... Quetzalcoatl is the winged serpent deity of ancient Mesoamerican culture. What's this about Mormons?
2007-04-19 06:02:55 · update #2
The statement is actually true if knowledge of God depends on direct, unmediated, experience.
I could make a good argument that my truck is blue, but you could dismiss all my evidences until you saw it for yourself. Even then you could dismiss your visual experience, but you have a basis for knowledge still.
As to the rest, sure, you can say it. But your last sentence doesn't follow. One need not assume the diety exists to see the need for direct experience as a necessary condition for knowledge of the deity. I may not even have a blue truck, either. But true knowledge of it would require direct experience.
To put it another way, you need not believe I have a blue truck until you experience its Toyota majesty. Nor is belief in God a prerequisite for experiencing Him. I don't believe in three-eyed aliens, but I might be more inclined if they broke in my house and tied me up.
2007-04-19 05:55:15 · answer #1 · answered by Aspurtaime Dog Sneeze 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The thing is that Mormons believe Quetzalcoatl is Jesus Christ; because he was the "white, bearded deity" that appeared to the Aztecs/Mayas who supposedly wrote the Book of Mormon. For them, "Quetzalcoatl" already proved Himself by having their book be translated.
God isn't to be proven or disproven; whether He is there or not is a matter for each individual to explore for him/herself.
2007-04-19 06:01:00 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why do you mock my personal relationship with Quetzalcoatl?: stop attacking!
2007-04-19 09:25:46 · answer #3 · answered by CHEESUS GROYST 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Because God makes Himself known to you. The key is that you must seek God. Not just once or twice, but seek God until God answers you and makes Himself known to you. Even when you don't believe, ask God to help your unbelief.
2007-04-19 06:00:23 · answer #4 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, but only once you've opened your heart to Quetzalcoatl, will you understand...
2007-04-19 05:51:35 · answer #5 · answered by Eleventy 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
You have to forgive some of these fundies, as they've never taken any sort of class in advanced math or general logic.
Imagine if you were trying to prove completeness of R; and you started out, "Now, assume that R is complete...."
2007-04-19 05:58:17 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
i am sorry i am not familiar with Quetzcoali or even how to say it...but what i can say is maybe the ppl say this, because they are not God, only God has the Power to do as He wishes...that is the point of faith anyways...believing in the unseen...that is also why we have free will...to believe or not to believe...
2007-04-19 05:57:48 · answer #7 · answered by baba where art thou 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God isn't a natural phenomenon. He's a PERSON. I can tell you about Him, but until you meet Him, it's just hearsay.
2007-04-19 05:58:01 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It sounds like buck passing, but I have no way of knowing until the buck has been passed...
2007-04-19 05:53:12 · answer #9 · answered by Orac 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, I guess god either doesn't want to prove himself to me, or he can't.
2007-04-19 05:52:48 · answer #10 · answered by eldad9 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋