...(Bruce Willis style) and during the inevitable press conference it was noted he wore a crucifix, would I be reading "He's a Christian" all over R&S?
It's just that it seems like the villain of the moment actually said he was a Christian, but I'm reading "he claimed to be Christian" "he probably wasn't really saved."
Just wondering.
2007-04-19 02:38:39 · 20 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Let me tell you an example. There is a man, who is physically disable. He founded a non profit organization. In less than one year he helped about 300 people at the expense of his own health and funds. That man also saved a woman from being attacked by a mad man. He helped an American who was stranded for 11 years in foreign soil to go back home. He helped an entire Panamanian family to go back home when nobody else did anything to help.
In addition to all that, his health is really poor. His legs get weaker and weeker each day. The people consider him a Christian, but he is not, and he tells them so. Then the people say "but you have Christian principles because you were raised as a Christian". The man doesn't consider himself as a hero and hates to be seen as such.
Doing good to others in need is not a matter of religious beliefs. It is a matter of goodness of the people's hearts. Some people claim that the man will go to hell only because he hasn't accepted Christianity as his religion. Others think that the man is stupid, because he could have used his knowledge and his deed to be rich by charging fees to the people for the help given.
What do you think this man is? Hero? Stupid? Will the man go to hell?
2007-04-19 03:01:25 · answer #1 · answered by David G 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
If you credit your religion with the things that make you a good person and make your life worth living, it would be very difficult to accept that it could also make someone come that unhinged. I don't think Christianity or whatever other religion or non-religion he followed had a blessed thing to do with the Virginia Tech shooting. If the shooter were Pagan, I'd probably be very quick to distance myself from him and say, "We're not like that." Look at the actions of the South Koreans--his home country wanted to apologize for him! It's just a human thing.
2007-04-19 09:45:05 · answer #2 · answered by GreenEyedLilo 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
If you hang out here for a very short time, you'll find that Christians here* do not base their idea of who is and is not a Christian on Jesus saying that his people were whoever believed in him, but upon what people they would like to be Christians. Good people who are not Christian are assumed to be Christian, bad people whose religion is unknown are assumed to not be Christians and bad people who are Christian are called "not true Christians."
It becomes very clear that the Christianity practiced by Christians here* has very little, if anything, to do with the Bible, and if they don't like something in the Bible, they just translate it differently in whatever new version they think up.
*If I meant ALL, I would've said ALL.
2007-04-19 09:53:28 · answer #3 · answered by LabGrrl 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You know the drill.
To a Christian, if a Muslim commits a terrorist act, it's not political, it's a natural result of being Muslim.
If a Buddhist commits a terrorist act, it's a natural result of being being Buddhist.
If a Christian commits a terrorist act, then he wasn't really, or he was just a 'cultural' Christian.
It's the same scapegoat nonsense that led to believing in Jesus and the Devil to begin with. The refusal to take responsibility.
It's ALWAYS those OTHER people.
2007-04-19 09:45:29 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
What gets me is if some hero like you suggest wasn't wearing a crucifix and turned out to be atheist there would still be plenty of Christians to come forward to say that he's still going to Hell.
What kind of religion is it that rewards the Hitlers of the world who believe and ask forgiveness go to Heaven but automatically condemns all Heroic atheists to everlasting torture?
I don't want any part of it.
2007-04-19 09:53:34 · answer #5 · answered by Atheistic 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Well, the hero wearing the crucifix might be christian, or possibly a rock/rap star.
2007-04-19 09:42:33 · answer #6 · answered by Rosalind S 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I hate that crap, "he claimed to be a christian" "he probably wasn't really saved" and who can be the judge of that? 99 percent of the people in prison are HIGHLY religious and yet they commited horrible crimes, some in the name of god. This guy comes along claims to be doing as Jesus did and everyone says NOOOO he couldn't be because he probably wasn't saved. Thats so stupid, the kid did what he did because he believed AS MANY OF YOU DO. He believed he was doing the right thing and that god would accept him for it. You people make me sick. IT was bad what he did but stop trying to say that he wasn't what he said he was, because you can't prove it.
2007-04-19 09:45:52 · answer #7 · answered by Satan 4 · 4⤊ 1⤋
I care little for religion. Theyguy saved lives; awesome. I don't care if he's Satanic (by the way, I'm not but most people desperately missundertand the religion), Buddhist, Muslim, Animist, Pagan. Poeple are people; why would his religion matter?
2007-04-19 09:47:46 · answer #8 · answered by Songbird 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It's the "No true Scotsman" fallacy of reasoning.
If a "Scotsman" does something the other "Scotsmen" disapprove of, he's not a "true Scotsman".
Since everyone is an individual, the end result is that there is no such thing as a "true Scotsman".
2007-04-19 10:45:20 · answer #9 · answered by Magenta 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Of course that would be the case.
However if the police raided the man's home the next day and found kiddie porn and a priest outfit they would say he wasn't a true Christian.
2007-04-19 09:48:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋