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If allah created Adam and Eve with equal components to creat new life, why is a womans mind considered deficient , why is she considered like a domestic animal?

2007-04-19 01:55:58 · 19 answers · asked by Giorgio M 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

a mild slap? I feel so much better now! if you can slap her , can she slap you?

the deficiency quote is from the hadith(baukari)V3B48N826

"domestic animals" is from Tabari IX 113

2007-04-19 02:09:44 · update #1

by the way, christianity has always enshrined equality of women in the bible and traditions. that had some different roles but were equal in the marriage covenant "2 become 1 body" but the question here isnt as much about practice as it is religious teaching which is supposrted nby the quran and hadith that they are NOT equal. European governments and the american governments were not governed by the church.

2007-04-19 02:15:26 · update #2

quran 3;195 directly contradicts 4:11 then with regard to inheritence where the male a portion equal to 2 females it also cotradicts the authentic hadith of baukari that says the witness of a woman is equal to half of a man. see deficiency quote above.

2007-04-19 02:26:57 · update #3

19 answers

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Everything that you wrote was wrong.
Edit: that toe girl is lying. Muslim men are not supposed to beat their wives. I'm so sick of people telling lies and people believing them!

Quran 3:195 tells us :

"Their Lord responded to them: "I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you MALE OR FEMALE, YOU ARE EQUAL TO ONE ANOTHER........."

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)- Women are the twin halves of men.
"To seek knowledge is obligatory on every Muslim."

Women and men are equal to one each other in Islam.
Women and men are supposed to seek knowledge and to get an education.

Then verse 4:34 doesn't mean to beat one's wife! Sometimes, I wonder how can they misunderstand this verse.

These are rules that only apply when the wife is misbehaving in a way that messes up the marriage and/or family.

If somebody really believes that verse 4:34 means to automatically beat the wife then I want them to show that sentence that says automatically beat your wife. I challenge anybody to show that sentence.

Read the verse carefully.
It is saying that when the wife is first starting to misbehave then TALK TO HER!! You can talk to her 1, 2, 5, 10, 12 times before moving on the next step. If the wife sees that her behavior is wrong and she stops then there is NOTHING FOR THE HUSBAND TO DO!!!

If the wife continues then the man is supposed to turn his back on her in the bed. The wife will realize even more that what she is doing is wrong and she may stop. If she does then there is NOTHING FOR THE HUSBAND TO DO!!

If she still continues then the man may give her (one) a light whack or tap depending on your interpretation, but WITHOUT LEAVING ANY BRUISES OR MARKS BECAUSE IN ISLAM A MAN IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BEAT HIS WIFE!!!!!

The sad thing is that some people are still going to read this and still believe that Islam allows men to beat their wives. *shakes her head sadly*

You are thinking about the culture of Muslims and not the religion:
More rights than one might think

Some Americans believe that Muslim women are oppressed by their religion, forced to cover themselves completely, denied education and other basic rights. It is true that Muslim women, like women all over the world, have struggled against inequality and restrictive practices in education, work force participation, and family roles. Many of these oppressive practices, however, do not come from Islam itself, but are part of local cultural traditions. (To think about the difference between religion and culture, ask yourself if the high rate of domestic violence in the United States is related to Christianity, the predominant religion.)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnections/mideast/questions/women/

Did anbody bother to read that? Those oppresive practices are part of local cultural traditions AND DOESN'T COME FROM ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit:
You know nothing of Islam. You probably got all your information from the prophet of doom website.

*Here is somthing for you though I know you won't read it and continue to be ignorant about Islam*:
There are widespread erroneous misconception about the status of women in Islam (Submission.) This misconception was augmented by some newsmedia that made little effort to correct their understanding before broadcasting their views on this matter. Adding to this misconception are the regrettable practices in most so called "Islamic" countries or societies where myths, traditions and innovations have won over the true Islamic (Quranic) teachings and where women are traditionally subdued and oppressed. In this presentation we will try to clarify the position of the true Islam (Submission) on the status of women. We will list the misconceptions then comment on every issue accordingly.

(1)Muslim women have to wear the veil: This is a very common misconception, as Quran does not command the veil (Hijab). Wearing the veil is a tradition and is only supported by the man-made books of Hadiths and Sunna. These books do not represent the words of God in the Quran and on many occasions contradict them. Please see: Women Dress code in Islam.
http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html

(2) Islam encourages wife beating: On the contrary, Quran uses the best psychological approach to discourage this widespread abuse that is widespread in both Islamic and non-Islamic societies. Please see: Domestic violence, Wife abuse and beating, a Quranic Perspective.

(3) The woman inherits only half what a man can inherit: This is a common misconception even among the traditional Muslims themselves. Quran gives the parents total freedom to give their children as much as they see fit even if this means giving the females double what the males would get. Quran, however, commands that if a will is NOT left, then the estate is distributed in such a manner that the son gets double what the daughter gets. Generally, the son is responsible for a family, while the daughter is taken care of by a husband or her family. However, the Quran recommends in 2:180 that a will shall be left to conform with the specific circumstances of the deceased. For example, if the son is rich and the daughter is poor, one may leave a will giving the daughter everything, or twice as much as the son.

(4)The woman's testimony. is equal only to half of the man's testimony: This is a gross mis-representation. The woman testimony is equal to the man's testimony except in one case only, the financial transactions. This is according to 2:282;

[ 2:282] O you who believe, when you transact a loan for any period, you shall write it down. An impartial scribe shall do the writing. ........ Two men shall serve as witnesses; if not two men, then a man and two women whose testimony is acceptable to all. Thus, if one woman becomes biased, the other will remind her. It is the obligation of the witnesses to testify when called upon to do so. ......

Financial transactions are the ONLY situations where two women may substitute for one man as witness. This is to guard against the real possibility that one witness may marry the other witness, and thus cause her to be biased. It is a recognized fact that women are more emotionally vulnerable than men. If the woman as a witness was worth half that of a man, the verse would have stated so clearly. But obviously that is not the case. Women's testimony in all other matters are equal to that of a man or even supersedes his testimony as in the case of a wife testifying against her accusation of adultery, 24:6-10. See also, 65:2, 5:106 and 4:6

(5)Muslim woman cannot have jobs outside their homes: This also is not true. The social structure in the East where Islam (Submission) prevails encourages the woman to make her house her first priority but there is no prohibition whatsoever on women having to work and earn their living. The Muslim (submitter) woman has been given the privilege to earn money, the right to own property, to enter into legal contracts and to manage all of her assets in any way she pleases. She can hold a job or run her own business and no one has any claim on her earnings including her husband. Historically, Muhammed's first wife was a merchant who hired Muhammed to work for her. Muslim women went along with their husbands, fathers and brothers during battles to take care of the wounded and help in the back lines of the troops..

(6)Polygamy is strongly recommended: This is one of the most common misconceptions about Islam (Submission.) Quran strongly discourages polygamy. Polygamy was a way of life until the Quran was revealed 1400 years ago. It was advocated and practiced by the followers of the previous scriptures. Quran came to put the first scriptural limit on polygamy and discourages it as much as possible. Please see; Polygamy, the right way In all the scriptures, the men were allowed to have more than one wife and not vise verse, since the idea of polygamy then was to populate the earth. As we know a woman can be pregnant only once a year even if she is married to four men but one man can have four children in the process at the same time if he is married to four wives. Polygamy was never meant to be abused for sexual pleasure or prove superiority. The emotional make up of a man makes him acceptable to polygamy and the opposite is true for women who prefer a monogamous relationship.

(7)Men status is higher than that of the women : Again this is not true. Many writers who wrote about women's rights refer to the statement in 4:34 as a sign of the man is above the women in status but it is a misunderstood statement. In 4:34, the expression "..al-rijalu qawwdmuna 'ala al-nisa'i.... " means "The men are made responsible for the women, and GOD has endowed them with certain qualities, and made them the bread earners." This expression simply means that God is appointing the husband as "captain of the ship." Marriage is like a ship, and the captain runs it after due consultation with his officers. It does not assign inequality but rather assigns duties to avoid conflicts and disputes.

Quran provides every possible proof that women and men are equal in th sight of God and treats both genders in the same way and rewards them in the same way. Please see; Are women and men equal in Islam? , Women in the religion of Submission (Islam) and Blame it on Eve. !.

(8) Muslim Women cannot have education: This is not true. Qur'an encourages the pursuit of knowledge by all Muslims (Submitters) regardless of their sex. It repeatedly commands all believers to read, to recite, to think, to contemplate, as well as to learn from the signs of God surrounding us in nature. In fact, the very first revelation to Prophet Muhammad was "READ" and the second revelation talked about God who teaches the people by the "PEN". In either case no gender is advocated, the order is for everyone. Islam (Submission) does not put any limit on the kind or field of education a woman may choose. Islamic history still has the mark of few women scholars

(9)Women cannot share in the political life in their communities: This also is not true. Women in Islam (Submission) have the right to vote, express their views on any public matter, run for an office and even be the head of a state.See 60:12, 27:22-44 Please see; Women and Politics in Islam and The record set straight: Women in Islam have rights.

(10)Women cannot pray, fast, do Hajj or Ummrah during menstruation: This misconception is even common among women who follow the traditional Islam that derives many of its laws from man-made books. This is totally against the teachings of the Quran. Please see; Religious Duties and Menstruation . A question/ answer report.

(11)Women are stoned to death for Adultery : This is totally false as there is NO death penalty for adultery in Islam (Submission). The penalty of adultery is equal for both men and women, and involves symbolic lashing. Social pressure, i.e., public witnessing of the penalty, is the basic punishment see 24:1-2

(12)Muslim women cannot marry Jewish or Christian men: This common misconception is advocated and promoted by men but have no basis in the Quran. Quran gives both men and women the right to marry from the people of the book, i.e. Muslims (Submitters), Jews or Christians. God also reminds us that the marriage to a believer is much better than the marriage to an idolworshiper. See 5:5 and 2:221. See also; Marriage in the Quran, and A Marriage question and answer from the Quran.

(13)Muslim women do not have the right to divorce their husbands: This is not true. Divorce laws in the Quran apply to both men and women equally. Women have the right to divorce their husbands as long as they follow the laws set in the Quran. Please see; Divorce according to the Quran.

(14)Compensation for the murder of a woman is half the going rate for men: This is totally false as both men and women are equally treated and compensated according to the Quran. Such laws are found in the fabricated books of Hadiths and Sunna and they are not the laws of God in the Quran.See 2:178.

(15)For a woman to prove rape, four adult males of "impeccable" character must witness the incident: This a gross misunderstanding of this law. Like any civil law in the civilized world, Quran urges a proof beyond doubt for such a horrendous crime. Quran accepts a proof of a crime if the proof is beyond doubt, e.g. see 12:75. Therefore although the verses of adultery which is used in cases of rape are applied, a proof beyond doubt, e.g. DNA of the offender should be an acceptable proof instead of four witnesses in these cases. Insisting on four witnesses when the other proof is beyond doubt is NOT Quranic.

(16)The legal age for girls to marry tends to be very young: This is not an Islamic law but local tribal or cultural tradition. In reality Islam (Submission) expects marriage to be established on mutual understanding, acceptance and approval. Such requirements cannot be achieved in the very young girls (or boys). Maturity, mentally, emotionally and physically is the rule in Islam (Submission) before marriage. The story of prophet Muhammed marrying his wife Aysha when she was only six is a gross lie that can be found in the Hadiths books that are full of many other similar lies that do not represent Islam (Submission.) Please see; Prophet Muhammed's marriage to Aysha.

(17)Female circumcision, also called female genital mutilation: Quran does not mention nor advocates female circumcision and all the rituals that go with it. This is NOT an Islamic practice by all means. This practice predates Muhammad and is also common among some Christian communities.

(18) Muslim women are not allowed to drive: Again this is not Islamic law but rather a local tradition in some of these so called "Islamic" countries. Quran has no restriction on the women moving freely in the society, whether this includes riding a horse, driving a car or flying an aeroplane. Local laws that require the women to be accompanied by a male relative whenever they travel are traditional laws that have NO basis in the Quran.

(19) Typically, fathers win custody of boys over the age of six and girls after the onset of puberty: This is only a local law that is not supported by the Quran. Cases of custody are to be decided on a case by case basis with the interest of the children being the priority in any judgment. God puts a great emphasis on protecting the right of the weak and unprotected kids, please see; 6:151-152, 17:31, 17:34, 2:233, 6:140, 60:12, 4:127, 4:2, 4:10, 33:5, 93:9, 2:215, .....

(20) Women must be segregated form men in public, work and places of worship: This is a common misconception even among some Muslims but has NO basis in the Quran. On the contrary, God meant for the women and men to be together with NO segregation whether in public, work or worship places. Hajj (pilgrimage) is a vivid example of how women and men are not segregated and worship in the same place, then go ahead with their lives and practice commerce after Hajj with no limits..

(21) "honor killings" of women: Murders by husbands or male relatives of women suspected of disobedience, usually a sexual indiscretion or marriage against the family's wishes. These are tribal laws, not Islamic laws. There is no such thing as HONOR killing in Islam (Submission.) All killings are condemned in the Quran. in the strongest language possible. Please see; 5:32, 6:151 and 17:33. Punishment for these killers will follow the same general rules in the Quran and would not get a lighter sentence for his claims even if they were true. After all, these killers violated the sacred laws of God in the Quran. The punishment in the Quran is based always on an attempt to save lives not to waste lives. Please see Capital Punishment in Islam.

(22) "Morality Police" keeps control on the behaviour of women: Islam (Submission) does not assign police for morality as such character is not created by force but rather by understanding of God's laws in the Quran. The practice of the so called "Morality Police" is a total innovation of some of these so called "Islamic" countries but has nothing to do with Islam (Submission.)

(23) Women cannot travel freely except in the company of a male relative, "mahram": This is a man made fabrication that has no support in the Quran. According to the Quran, women have no limitations on their moves, travels or activities. Men who hire themsleves guards on the women's moves do this out of their own wishes not beause of any religious law in the Quran.

2007-04-19 02:19:39 · answer #1 · answered by ? 5 · 4 0

Dude! Allah s.w.t teaching is percfect and unquestionable!The quran is perfect, the sunnah and hadith of Prophet Mohammad is perfect but human being are not perfect!Muslims are not perfect! We tend to make mistakes, we behave differently according the way of life we living in! There is no teaching at all in Islam which considered woman as a domestic animal! In fact Islam and the quran dont do considered!What ever in the holy book is absolute and beyond any alteration!Human on the other hand, make assumption and consideration most of the time! iT IS NOT ALLAH s.w.t who considered woman as domestic animal nor woman equal to the half man but we are! Islam is all about fairness, peace, honor! Read the holy quran then you will understand what im saying.

2007-04-19 02:11:51 · answer #2 · answered by Danni 2 · 2 1

I have thought the same for many years and have tried to get others to see the truth but they simp[ly will not look.

Religions all of them are creations of man to control man. In their beginings they meant well and were needed to allow people to live and work together. Over time man has changed them and now they are far from being of benefit to man. Civil law is replacing relitious ruel in many areas but the churches just won't let go and keep trying to control.

Take a good look at what is. The vatican is very wealthy and has paid millions of dollars to hide the trutrh about their priests.

Look at all the church leaders and you will se a very high number that are quite wealthy.

Religions under any other name would be baned from most nations.

2007-04-19 02:59:53 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Not sure what all thse other crazy people are basing their facts off of but the Quran does not say you can beat your wife. The Quran states that if a Man commits adultery (which is a great sin) then people have the right to stone him to death and if a woman commits adultery she should also be punished but not stoned to death. It doesn't say beat up ur wife..WTF is wrong with you people..do you ever read the whole context and the history of why this was said. Morons!

2007-04-19 02:36:07 · answer #4 · answered by Luv Peace 4 · 2 0

Well, if you think of it as a historical concept rather than a religious one, you'll see that giving women more rights than half a man would be unacceptable in that era. If you rather prefer a religious answer, consider this: if Christianity is all about equality, why did it take Europeans so long to give equal rights to women? Wasn't it in the Book?

2007-04-19 02:03:09 · answer #5 · answered by Totally Blunt 7 · 1 0

men and women are not equal !
women have power inside her self to handle more things that man never be able to . she become pregnant and stand the pain in every month and in delivery , she rises kids with patient and love , take care of her home ,kids,husband,work and herself and all with a warmhearted smile .
men are strong and have power also but a physically power to hold out the tired to make the proper life for his family , work all the time,protect them and be the solid part in this life .

who said the Islam say beat your wife !
that was in another meaning , in a one verse and in a ONE condition , when your wife is OVER slop and so close to destroy her family by her self. its just like you hit her with a stick to wake her up !

women never measured as a half of the men .
if you mean in inheritence , then you have to know that god is All-wise to put these laws . man in Islam have to spend on his family and his WIFE and women should keep her money for her self only if she want so , can you consider who have to take the larger amount of the inheritence ?

before you judge on anything , you most to think logically .

Allah is Just and All-merciful God . thank god I'm a Muslim.

hope that's clear now , peace :)

2007-04-19 02:30:42 · answer #6 · answered by Alone 4 · 1 0

Because someone who is a bit touched in the head interpreted it that way, and people believe it.
I don't and that's why I have very little to do with organized religion.
There is no justification to slap a woman, despite what God or Allah or whatever deity you pray to says. Interpretation of the Bible or Koran is flawed, as is much of the thinking of the people who support the beating of women.
It's no wonder the Taliban ruled Afghanistan with thinking like this.....

2007-04-19 02:04:46 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Do u feel the allah of the quran will take u out of the hell to which u cross first? No he'll now not. He isn't ready even tho' u say he's so much merciful. do not assume mercy from the satan. Jesus introduced grace and reality to the sector. Md once more introduced regulation that allows you to take u to hell.

2016-09-05 17:17:53 · answer #8 · answered by husted 4 · 0 0

No matter the name of the God we worship, he is just and merciful. The opinion that women are in any way inferior to men is wrong. We have as much brain, and as much soul, and as much heart. It is not okay for anyone to physically abuse anyone, male or female. It is a figment of man's imagination that a man should have control over his wife as he does over his horse. He is put as the head of the family because he can protect, not because he can hit and abuse.

2007-04-19 02:05:57 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

When you get right down to it, women are evil and filthy. They deserve what they get. Do not blame muslim men. They do not make the rules, but only carry them out. By the way, Catholics have a fairly similar opinion of women, although not nearly as bad.

2007-04-19 02:50:16 · answer #10 · answered by Fred 7 · 0 0

who tells you that? we muslim treat women like a jewel. a muslim husband can beat up his wife if she being unloyal on his husband. if a muslim women unloyal to her husband for the first time the husband should give her strict advices. the second time the wife being unloyal the husband should separate the wife and husband so that she would feel lonely and sorry for it. the third time the wife being unloyal then the husband are given the permission to beat up his wife but not too harsh.

2007-04-19 02:06:27 · answer #11 · answered by AmarDrifter 2 · 0 1

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