Suicide missions in Virginia Tech or Iraq: are they Schizos or just spiritualy vain?

Question

Would you say suicide attacks (Self Martyrdom) are symptomatic of gross religious vanity or just Schizo?

I believe it is soulish blackmail ie an unspiritual act performed inorder to draw attention to any person or group whose main grievance is the total lack of interests shown in them otherwise. Children throw tantrums inorder to get their own way and "Self Martyrs" throw violent tantrums derived from profound sulking. I think this spirit of doom, this soulish sulking cuts "Self martyrs" off from society at large and drives them into isolation and loneliness where their own delusions fester and get manipulated by fanatical beliefs. Their views are self centered and unfounded, lacking in any demonstration or proof of teaching, such as professing peace but killing anyone in the way and/or claiming divine inspiration or a relationship to higher powers but failing to demonstrate this to others.

Cho Seung-Hui, said in one video “Thanks to you, I die like Jesus Christ to inspire generations of the weak and the defenseless people.”

This shows 1. the guys a loon, 2. yes he's psycho 3. he's totally screwed on matters of faith because he considers his acts of violence are the equivalent to those of Jesus Christ the man of peace! Cho & those fruit cases in Iraq are all talking out of their behinds.

Answer 1

As we seek to understand what happened and why he did this, it is vital that we not exclude an important part of the equation: evil.

Faced with this kind of horror, we automatically assume that we are dealing with a madman—a word the media has already used to describe the killer. That’s because we can’t imagine ourselves or anyone we know doing anything remotely like this. Therefore, we conclude that something must have been “wrong” with the perpetrator.

And, since our culture is defined by what sociologist Philip Rieff called the “therapeutic ethos,” the “something” that’s “wrong” must be a psychological defect. Mental illness, not human evil, is our preferred explanation for what happened in places like Blacksburg or Columbine.

We are uncomfortable attributing events like this to human evil, much less to a kind of evil that seeks to undo God’s creation—what Christians call the demonic.

Yet without this idea, events like this massacre can never be understood. We might learn that the killer was “mentally unbalanced” or on anti-depressants. But, absent evidence that he was clinically delusional, this knowledge will not explain why he walked onto a college campus, locked people in a lecture hall, and killed them.

Events like this not only horrify us—they unsettle us. We think of sin and the demonic as not-so-quaint relics from a superstitious age. And even more destructive, random events like this remind us how little we know about ourselves and what we are capable of, as well. But failing to call evil evil misleads us about the world we live in and our need for God’s grace, the only real answer and hope for any of us.

Answer 2

The incident in Virginia Tech is hatred and envy by a Koerean man to the rich students in that school and as evidence the investigators have taken the messages of that Korean student which ws written by him before the incident and as a result , the Korean student killed himself. There is no relationship on relgion on this matter. Hatred and envy is the real caused.

It was considered that the Korean man is of mental defect.
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Answer 3

Suicide bombers are one case. These people have had their ideas warped by fanatics; they are told that they will reach paradise through this act. They have been brainwashed by 'teachers' who broadcast a deviant variation of their religion.

In the case of Virginia, this was a psychologically deeply disturbed young man. The 'system' failed him. There is no comparison.

Whereas it has already been said, that the fact that the perpetrator of the Virginia massacre was deranged, might help the families and fellow students to come to terms with the tragedy, broadcasting the video is questionable. Presumably he had family, who are now also going through hell.

Answer 4

I think the problem might have a lot to do with the contradiction of information that exists in today's world. The level of accumulated knowledge, the speed with which it can be accessed, the advanced technology that is common place....and yet we still have an archaic set of completely unfounded beliefs that still enforce rigid control over the populace. This contradiction must be causing confusion and manifests itself in acts of mindless rage.

Answer 5

I think confusion is in the mix here in the case of the guy who killed at Virginia Tech..i think he knew exactly what he was doing and in the end vanity was the overriding factor...i agree with some of your comments, but then there's the spiritual realm which i can't really talk about here...but yes i would say pride and vanity...

Answer 6

What are you talking about? I didn't know we were on a suicide mission in Iraq. More than a million Iraqis have fled the holocaust of our vanguard of democracy. Do you have any idea how many Iraqis have died? Or how many Palestinians over the last forty years? As for Cho,no more or less disturbed than the Texas sniper forty years ago. As far as V-Tech,that sort of thing is a daily experience in Iraq now that our Glorious Neocons have gotten their hands on it to shape and mold according to their wishes. You talk about "suicide bombers" in Iraq? Well,listen,we're not giving them or the Palestinians 1 billion $ annually for a European-class airforce; they're not really in a position to bomb us conventionally - the the so-called "Israelis". You think like a Jew,you talk like a Jew,you are a Jew...blood blood blood. Give the iraqi resistance a decent air force and I don't think they'll be dependent on suicide bombers,there or - for the Palestinians in lovely little Israel.

Answer 7

Schizoids. In the case of the VA Tech student it has been revealed in this mornings news that he was certified mentally ill by a court psychiatrist as being a danger to himself, and some of his teacher considered him a danger to other students, but the campus police had no authority to act against him because he made no open threats.

Answer 8

Brainwashing by so called religious gurus who consider that the life of a man is just mortally compatible with the polarization of thoughts that can be injected into him for gains on the other side of the chess-board.
In all, it is vain martyrdom with not much recognition in the future. Else, its as good as being inflicted with a sex change operation.

Answer 9

A court psychiatrist forgot to check a box on his report and nobody bothered to read his writing. Great system.

Paper work and form filling Kills.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3052278&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/19/us/19gunman.html?hp

Answer 10

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