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A Mother's Agony
Schizophrenic, drug addict son put her through 'hell' for years, then burned down their home
Doug Ward and Frances Bula, with files from Kelly Sinoski, Vancouver Sun
Published: Wednesday, April 18, 2007
For years Helga Knippelberg's schizophrenic son demanded that she give him money to feed his drug habit.

She would give him cash or cheques. Often she would borrow money from neighbours. If she refused his request for money, Ronald Knippelberg would regularly threaten to harm her or burn down their large east Vancouver house.

"It's been horrible. No one can imagine," Helga Knippelberg, 74, recalled Tuesday. "I'm not even afraid to go to hell because that man has put me through hell."


Helga Knippelberg, 74, stands Tuesday by what's left of her home of 51 years after it was burned to the ground Monday night by her son, Ronald, 47.
Ian Smith, Vancouver Sun

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Font: ****On Monday night, fire destroyed their house at 1091 East 21st Ave. Ronald Knippelberg, 47, was arrested by police after he escaped the three-alarm blaze by jumping out a second-storey window. He has been charged with arson and uttering a threat.

"I've lost everything, furniture, everything," said Helga Knippelberg, standing beside the ruins of her home, where she had lived for 51 years, the day after the fire.

The German immigrant was accompanied by her daughter, Doris Fischer and a grandson, and embraced by neighbours and long-time friends -- all of whom had watched with horror and fear for many years as Helga Knippelberg struggled with her son's mental illness and his insatiable appetite for drugs.

She said her son was diagnosed with schizophrenia at age 17 after being sent to Riverview psychiatric institute by a judge.

He later became hooked on injection drugs while in prison, said his mother. Anger management therapy never worked and he wouldn't take medication.

She described her son as someone "who hasn't a friend in the world."

Doris Fischer said her brother always refused therapy. "He never felt there was anything wrong with him. It was all of us who were the ones who were off."

The mother hopes that her son finally gets the help that he never received before.

"I am hoping that somebody realizes that he needs help. He still has longer to live than I do."

Helga Knippelberg said that on the day of the fire, her son had been berating her for not giving him enough money for drugs. She gave him a cheque, but he wanted some more. He needed another hit of whatever drug he was using that day -- crack cocaine or heroin.

Her son, like most drug addicts, can't accept the word "no," said Helga Knippelberg.

"When they do drugs, they are in a completely different world. It's unexplainable. Unexplainable."

He had already spent about $1,400 on drugs since March 7, when he was released from jail, she added, and had gone beyond the money limit she had set for him.

"He was in a very big need of a fix," said Helga Knippelberg. He demanded that she borrow some money from a neighbour and she refused. She lay down on the chesterfield and he began walking up and down the stairs, appearing more and more hyper.

His behaviour became so worrisome that she decided to phone the police. He had already broken the downstairs phone so she ran across the street and asked a neighbour to call 911 just after midnight.

The police emergency response team appeared and then 38 firemen in 11 trucks.

Const. Tim Fanning said that a police negotiator tried to talk the "very upset, very distraught" suspect into leaving the house. But he had barricaded the door and the police couldn't enter.

2007-04-18 18:34:45 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in News & Events Current Events

But what is the tort for the civil case and the mens reas and actus reas for the criminal case?

2007-04-18 18:46:35 · update #1

mostly you all are saying its a criminal case but then what is the mens reas and actus reas for it?

2007-04-18 19:17:07 · update #2

6 answers

You could get it into both courts, I would think.

2007-04-18 18:43:03 · answer #1 · answered by ppaper.wingss 3 · 0 1

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2016-06-12 01:26:40 · answer #2 · answered by Lydia 3 · 0 0

It is a criminal case.

However, the verdict by the judge should be confinement to a mental/rehab institution. As the Lawyer on Fox news said then it would be on his record, and he would not have been allowed to purchase a gun legally.

Although when a person who is deranged such as chow, and is determined to kill people he could have purchased it illegally anyway, So I really don't know how this could have been avoided.

G-d help those families, that are grieving now, and many years to come.
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2007-04-18 18:46:13 · answer #3 · answered by michelebaruch 6 · 0 0

It is a criminal case for the threats, arson, and drug use as well as resisting arrest.

It is also a civil case for the damage done to the house and maybe even emotional trauma suffered by the victims.

So to answer, it would be both. The criminal case would put him behind bars, and the civil case would get the money from him.

2007-04-18 18:40:24 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

When an arrest is made, it is a criminal case. Police do not arrest people for civil matters.
If they were to sue their son for damages, that would be a civil case. It is possible to have both.
But I doubt they will sue him, since he has no money. It would be a waste of time and money to sue him. The government pays for a criminal case, but if you file a civil case you have to pay for it yourself. The person sued may be ordered to reimburse you, or a lawyer may take your case on contingency, meaning he doesn't charge you unless you win.

2007-04-18 18:49:18 · answer #5 · answered by The First Dragon 7 · 1 1

Sounds like the arson part is going to be Criminal since it said that the police arrested him, but since he is already diagnosed crazy then he will never see jail time over it.

2007-04-18 18:45:56 · answer #6 · answered by Jacob 2 · 0 1

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