Why is it that after a tragedy such as occurred in Virginia happens...everybody always says?

Question

that the signs were all there...but nobody did anything? If the signs were all there--could anybody have done anything? What would they have done? I mean you can't walk up to someone and say I think you're insane and I'm gonna lock you up. Can u?

It's in the glbt category 'cause I live here..and Cindy you are correct--they should have shut it down immediately

Answer 1

Well, yes, actually, though it's better if you work through some third party that actually has the power to do so. Cho was accused of stalking by two women and a third, who was also a teacher, reported him to the point that she threatened to quit herself if he was not removed from her class.

The point is, those who did have the authority to do something did not, and now people are dead. Those individuals share some of the responsibility for what happened.

Answer 2

I take a different approach when it comes to this kind of stuff. Sure all the signs were there but their are people all across the world with the same exact signs. They just didn't go the extra step and go on a rampage.

School shootings are scary. The main reason is because we know that there is NOTHING we can do.

I agree that the school should have been shut down but not because of the shooting. Instead because of the fact that the shooter was on the loose. Then again I see the school's side. They had no idea that the killer wanted a massacre. Murders happen everyday in the United States and we can't shut down life everytime.

Answer 3

For the shutting down, they thought it was an isolated domestic incident at first. This means a lover's problem. Girl does something bad, like cheating, man takes deadly force. It happens in the USA, it's nothing remarkable.

That's why they were saying that the girl was involved with Cho, because they thought it was a domestic incident. Turns out she wasn't, and it wasn't domestic. There's nothing else they could've done. It was one shooting, it would get investigated and the students would be annoyed if they missed classes or something because of a shut down over a lover's quarrel. Hindsight is 20/20, we can't say they should've locked down the school now, it's not fair, the situation was different at first and didn't require it.

Now, you can do something about it. After Columbine lots of kids were arrested for just uttering crap about it. These things follow a pattern. You have an outsider, but not just any outsider, he's a failed joiner, that is he tries to join groups, but cannot. So he starts talking about killing people, which gets him attention, then time goes by, and he feels like he's talked himself into a corner. If he doesn't do it, then he feels as though he'll get rejected, but if he does it he anticipates to be treated like a hero. As the school year comes to an end, when most of these happen, they just go for it.

The real problem is that these signs are ignored, unless this happens. After Columbine, and obviously after this shooting, there'll be more reportings on thing stuff, because people are reminded it still happens. They say that maybe 1 out of 100 kids will actually mean it, but it's still worth catching all 100 to get to that 1, so that they can avoid a tragedy.

But, the modern public, especially youth who didn't go through stuff like Columbine, is under trained in what can happen, and what to look for and how to prevent it. We need to teach kids what to look for, we can't just expect them to know it, because they haven't lived it.

Think about a 10yo today, in a few years he'll be in University or College, but do you really think he'll remember Virginia Tech? Likely not because noone reminds them.

We need information campaigns. Kids will do the right thing, if they know what that is.

Answer 4

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Answer 5

It's one of the ways humans try to make sense of the senseless. A friend of mine died from cancer, and her partner punched the doctor and had to be restrained before she could kick him in the crotch, even though he did all he could and it wasn't his fault that this was her third battle with that beast. She couldn't punch the malignant cells and kick them in the crotch, you know?

It is possible to institutionalize someone if they're clearly a threat to themselves or others, depending on state law. But if they don't need to be institutionalized, there's a real risk of lawsuits. It was said that he wrote gory stories--well, maybe he could have grown up to become another Stephen King or Quentin Tarantino. The line between sanity and insanity, quirk and disorder, isn't as bright and clearly drawn as we'd like to think.

Anyway, that line of thinking is absolutely useless until the time machine is invented, and it's not worth indulging. Better to see what lessons can be taken from this for the future. Which is what I think you're saying.

Answer 6

No one does any preparation for it. Part of it has to do with invasion of privacy. Everybody wants the government to stay out of their lives, but then asks why the government never knew about these people. Also, there's a lack of cooperation and nobody making a move when someone shows the traits of a school shooter. On top of that people don't want to admit that "kids" can be that dark and angry and hateful. They don't want to admit that it exists in some kid's minds and plan for these attacks. They also don't want to admit that it exists in someone they know and inform the police before it happens.

Answer 7

I know I can't. I was talking about this to a friend today. You know they play this kid wrote that was supposed to be so horrible? If this hadn't happened they probably would have thought nothing of it. there's worse plays out there done by professionals. if you ever been to an art school, you would know that those types of stories are the norm for a lot of students. Does that make art students killers? It's crazy to try point out specific actions that made him do this. it was a culmination of everything in his life, not just a couple of incidents.

Answer 8

It can be done here in Florida.. they call it the Baker Act. If anyone shows signs of wanting to harm themselves or anyone else, they can be taken to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation and observation. I used to work in one, no fun.

People in this country have (unfortunately) been socialized to be such individualists that no one cares what's happening with everyone else. We've all taken on the "if it's not directly effecting me, I don't care" mentality. Especially the younger generation. It's sad. That's why nobody steps in and intervenes in situations like this. People would rather ignore it and go back to talking on their cellphones.

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Answer 9

I totally had this conversation last night with my mother. Everytime it is mentioned that all of the signs were there, but ... nothing.

Exactly. I think this has been a terrible event. It happens everyday in the world. Not that big of a deal elsewhere, is it? Americans can be very egocentric.

Answer 10

Perhaps not strangers. But certainly family or close friends who noticed something serious and dangerous could have attempted to get him help. If he wouldn't go and there are grounds for it he could be forced to have an evaluation.....would need some sort of proof, grounds.

Others, I am not sure could have done anything. Maybe be a friend to people who seem like they need one, before they get that far gone.