How come this guy ain't in Cooperstown yet???
2007-04-18 10:35:10 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Baseball
If u saw this guy in action, you'd know it's more than a "reputation". He was so dominating especially in his prime, which did last for a long time. He was hands down one of the all-time great relief pitchers, and DOES belong in the hall.
2007-04-19 15:05:41 · update #1
It seems that relief pitchers can't accumulate the stats needed to be voted into the hall. It's a shame that Goose doesn't get the recognition he deserves when "the save" is considered so valuable in today's game and the guys that do it now only need to get 3 outs with a 3 run lead and Goose was earning half of his saves by getting 9 outs with a 1 run lead.
2007-04-18 10:54:40 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
I'd say it's mainly because too many HOF voters don't have a clue when it comes time to vote.
From 1977 to 1985, Goose was a monster and almost untouchable, which is a seriously long peak period. His two closest comps, Rollie Fingers and Hoyt Wilhelm, are also already enshrined. Maybe part of the problem is that he didn't horde saves like a Hoffman or Lee Smith, but that's because closers in his dayweren't coddled and saved for the ninth inning like they are today.
Goose should be in Cooperstown. Hopefully, this problem eventually gets fixed.
By the way - Anyone who compares Goose to Lee Smith is way off. Goose was far more dominant in a more difficult role than Smith was at any point. Seriously, it makes me wonder how many people on here have any idea what they're talking about.
2007-04-18 17:52:04 · answer #2 · answered by Craig S 7 · 3⤊ 4⤋
I'm a Yankees fan and I like "Goose" but the same can be said about Lee Smith and his 478 saves whom is not in the hall of fame either.
Goose played a few more years longer than he should and it thinned his career stats. He had only 8 saves from 1989 to 1994 and it sticks out like a sore thumb.
2007-04-18 18:21:58 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
For the same reason Lee Smith isn't in the hall. The hall voters are not fond of putting guys like closers in the hall without having a steady bar to measure them by.
Once Rivera and Hoffman are inducted the bar for closers to get in will be super tough.
2007-04-18 19:06:18 · answer #4 · answered by Got Rings? 2 · 3⤊ 2⤋
He deserves induction..He pitched multi-inning saves most of the time..not like Rivera who comes in for 1 inning.
2007-04-24 06:22:32 · answer #5 · answered by Lefty 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Mostly because the voters have been very slow to acknowledge the greatness of relief pitchers. There are only a handful there, and the few that are had more public notice (that is not to say talent) during their careers.
2007-04-18 18:48:43 · answer #6 · answered by JerH1 7 · 2⤊ 4⤋
You can't put a man in based on his grimace and reputation alone. He was never super dominant nor did he break any records. He was a solid performer on a good Yankee teams.
And I agree. Lee Smith isn't in who's numbers are better so why should Goose be in?
2007-04-18 19:00:41 · answer #7 · answered by Tron 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋
His stats were good to very good but not great enough for the hall.
Lee Smith is not in why should Gossage be in?
2007-04-18 18:57:24 · answer #8 · answered by Stealing Home 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋
He was a great player but the Hall of Fame is for the All Time Greats. He dosen't belong in the same sentence with guys like Bob Gibson, Tom Seavor or Sandy Koufax.
2007-04-18 18:40:37 · answer #9 · answered by Cheese 5 · 0⤊ 7⤋
He is a very good player, not sure if HOF
2007-04-23 08:59:42 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋