who created God? and be serious.?

Question

The atheist Bertrand Russell wrote in his book "Why I am Not a Christian" that if it is true that all things need a cause then God must also need a cause. He concluded from this that if God needed a cause then God was not God (and if God is not God then of course there is no God). This was basically a slightly more sophisticated form of the childlike question, "Who made God?" Even a child knows that things do not come from nothing, so if God is a "something" then He must have a cause as well, right?



The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, "What does blue smell like?" Blue is not in the category of things that have odor, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created, or come into existence, or are caused. God is uncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.



How do we know this? Well, we know that from nothing, nothing comes. So if there was ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence then nothing would have ever come to exist. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been existing. That ever-existing thing is what we call God.

Answer 1

No one created God. God is eternal that means he has no begining or end. Impossiable in the universe we live in, yes. You see in this universe we have the dimension of time, so everything has a begining and an end. This is how God created this universe, God created time. However God is not part of this universe but seperate from it since he is the creator. If I create a sand castle on the beach, I am not part of the sand castle. The creator and creation is seperate. Then how do I know the universe is not eternal? Well if the universe was eternal, then everything within the universe would hold this concept, obviously we know this is not true because we know things begin and end. For if the universe was eternal then the dimension of time does not exsist. Time does not exsist with God, he is the first and the last and no one created Him.

Answer 2

Your question (and answer) are very intelligent. (I'm sure that you've borrowed some of your material from the Angelical Doctor, now haven't you? :) ).

As you mention, the question is ludicrous. It is what is called, in philosophy, a sophism. It is based on a false assumption (as you pointed out so well). What is the false assumption? It is the major premise, namely that "all things must have a cause". This statement is true only for created reality. God is not created reality, and therefore falls outside of the bounds of this statement. And if the major premise is false (as all good students of philsophy and logic know), the rest of the argument crumbles (sorry, Mr. Russell!).

Your question brings up a very important point: the importance of metaphysics for the study of truly important question such as the meaning of life, the existence of God, the problem of evil in the world, etc. Only metaphysics can help us to see the very important distinction (for our question) between "created being" and "uncreated being". In the words of the immortal St. Thomas: God (for him, the Father, since it is in his treatise on the Trinity) is "principium sine principio" (the Principle without a principle). In other words, God and God alone is the "uncaused Cause" of all things. This is something that modern science will never be able to determine or understand, for it falls outside of the bonds of science. Any truly good and honest scientist would acknowledge that.

Great question, thanks for posting it!

Answer 3

Edit. Wow. You're not very good at this whole science thing, are you?

1. There are cyclic universe models. These refute your claims that nothing existed at one point in time.

2. Quantum physics disagrees with you. Something comes out of nothing all the time, it's called quantum fluctuation.

3. Proof that our understanding is flawed is not proof of a deity, nor a higher, transcending force.

So, in summary, your premises are two facts that aren't really facts, and your conclusion is silly. The existence of the god is just as impossible as the existence of the universe.

Answer 4

Actually the question "Who made God?" makes perfect sense. You are working under the false presumption that divine beings exist when history shows that such divine beings are created to explain things that man does not understand.

Basically though, the question is as invalid as asking "Who made Odin?" or "Who made Zeus?" - all deities are fictional and so they don't truly exist except in the minds of believers.

The only true answer to "Who made God?" would be "You did." as everyone has their own presuppositions of what a divine being would be.

Answer 5

Seems like you answered your own question, LOL.

There has to be an uncreated First Cause, otherwise the First Cause will never be the First Cause.

The ancient Christian philosophers and theologians like Origen called him (in Greek) "Autotheos," meaning God of Himself. He is his own origin, and the origin of everything else.

It is obvious that creation exists, so it is also logical that its Creator exists. We cannot confine God to our dimension, nor to our physical experiences.

We may know what is logical with matter and with the visible universe, that does not mean that we know all the laws of the invisible Cosmos.

Answer 6

Adam and Eve have been the 1st actual people. they had a ton of infants - outdoors the backyard of Eden. no person ever back to the backyard of Eden. They could no longer because of the fact 2 angels have been guarding it lest they eat from the tree of existence and be perpetually caught in a fallen state of being. even nevertheless it grew to become into after the autumn while they began having infants. Cain's spouse grew to become into additionally his sister. He had many to make a choice from. Genesis does not point out them because of the fact it focuses in on a extra significant component of the scriptures as an entire - the covenant God had made with Adam and mankind after the autumn. the tale of Cain and able talks approximately that covenant and assorted possibilities they made. It does no longer mean the girls human beings of their lives weren't significant. yet Cain had many to make a choice from. undergo in recommendations, they have been all residing an exceedingly long term back then because of the earth's diverse circumstances.The layer that grew to become into around the earth stored the intense concentrations of oxygen in and the suns risky rays out. They have been residing one hundred and 100s of years back then. So Cain might have married while he grew to become into one hundred years previous. He had an excellent form of sisters or perhaps nieces to make a choice from.

Answer 7

First unlike the universe, which according to modern science had a beginning, God is infinite and eternal. No one made God! He alway was.

Answer 8

Simple question, simple answer,,,

God is the uncreated one, he has no end and no beggining,
We are created so that is all we are built to comprehend.
Stop wasting time thinking about it, and start Praising God that he alone knows, maybe one day he will tell you.

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Answer 9

Friedrich Nietzsche "On the sixth day God created man. On the seventh day, man returned the favor."

Answer 10

Though no one can prove or disprove God's existence, our history reveals the unmistakable footprints of something greater than man.

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