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free will: the doctrine that God exercises no power or influence over our choices.

predestination: the doctrine that God in consequence of his foreknowledge of all events infallibly guides those who are destined for salvation.

miracle: the doctrine that God suspends the laws of nature to create an object or event that can only be explained as a result of his supernatural intervention.

omniscience/omnipresence: the doctrine that God was/is/will be in all places at all times, thus aware before the time of Creation of every decision made before it is made, and every consequence that results from every decision.

2007-04-17 12:16:35 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

18 answers

Free will and its opposite, determinism, are both impossible to prove.

2007-04-17 12:19:45 · answer #1 · answered by kscottmccormick 6 · 0 2

Some corrections of terms:

Free will: the right to make choices, (does not include the right to choose consequences)

Predestination: A false notion

Foreordination: The pre-earth assignment of an earthly assignment. The person never loses the right to choose whether to follow God and achieve that mission, or to use their free will to make choices taking them toward or away from their foreordained mission.

Miracle: God suspends earthly law, using a higher law to create an object...

Omniscience: God knows everything, past, present and future

Omnipresence: a false notion. Only His knowledge and influence are everywhere.

2007-04-17 12:29:02 · answer #2 · answered by Free To Be Me 6 · 0 0

I am using free will to answer.
I was a horrible, uncaring, abusive, lying, judgemental suicidal person before I found Grace, now I show people I care, I am trying to be no longer abusive, to myself, my children & the people I care about. I try awfully hard to judge no one, or lie, as it is hurtful to those about me and mostly the person I was before grace I couoldn't stand. This was the the predistination, he knew that eventually I would make a choice life or death. I found life.That in itself is the mircale, that (and the 2 children that I have been granted to care, teach,help until they can do that themsevles. And being everywhere, knowing everything, God knew that 1 decision culd change me for the better, or cause more pain & suffering as I commited murder/suicide. (I was in the process of trying to kill myself & those 2 children.) God, not only placed in my path people who could help, he gave a kick up the tail to motivate, and the realisation that I needed to do something immediately because I was going too far! Had i not listened I wouldn't be hear today, as I would have excersed free will to Kill myself & 2 innocent children, thinking I had their best intrest at heart But the miracle is I am, and with God's Grace, I have found a new me that I can only thank God for.
So free will , miracle, predistination omniscience/omnipresence all without a mention of scripture & using my life (as terrble as it was) as the example

2007-04-17 12:35:53 · answer #3 · answered by ozraikat 4 · 0 0

actually free will states that God does not manipulate our choice. He can however say "no" or "yes"; it's whether you listen and obey or not.

logic: why would God's will include you doing something He said is against His will (steal, lie, kill, etc)?
answer: He gave us choice. we're not puppets

logic: God doesn't lie, so He wouldn't say He wants all people to come to know Him when He says the majority of people are Hellbound.
answer: people choose: God, or not God

God being omnipresent/omniscient/omni-tempral knows the best way ofr things to happen, but humans for the most part would rather do what isn't right. I didn't quote any Scripture, but you'll see that I'm right if you check.

2007-04-17 12:24:17 · answer #4 · answered by Hey, Ray 6 · 1 0

Free Will: He is not raining fire on us plus people seem to believe whatever.

Predestination: Nope only on the day of rapture will this be made evident.

Miracle: Most Doctors have a miracle story. Plus stories like "I should not be alive" count for me. Plus, the rescue of the Allied troops from France also count for me.

Omniscience/Omnipresence is a "feeling" now and also well be made known on the day of judgment.

I hope some one can help you better as I confess my inability to explain these topics.

2007-04-17 12:28:57 · answer #5 · answered by crimthann69 6 · 0 0

The fundamental nature of The Creator is to construct and not destruct. Many of us are ignorant of this, and so we conduct ourselves destructively instead of constructively. This is in contradiction to the principle of "Creation". If we don't understand this then we are ignorant. If we do understand this but choose to be selfish and destructive anyway, that is our choice to use our free will not to align with "The Creator" but to rebel against the natural order of creation. This is why our ignorance and selfishness is soon to cause great calamity on this planet.

2007-04-17 12:35:38 · answer #6 · answered by goto jahosopher yahoo group 1 · 0 0

From the American Heritage Dictionary:

"free will - n. 1. The ability or discretion to choose; "

Hey, I just chose to answer this using the dictionary instead of the scriptures - and I was able to do that. There's your proof.

2007-04-17 12:24:30 · answer #7 · answered by daisyk 6 · 1 0

Your definition of Free Will is wrong... God exercises power and influence over our choices by giving us guidelines to follow, however, he leaves it up to us to choose to follow those guidelines or not...

Your definition of predestination is wrong also.

a miracle is NOT a doctrine - neither is omniscience nor is omnipresence.

First get your facts straight, then try to ask a question - You will appear more intelligent that way.

2007-04-17 12:21:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Yea,yea,yea,yea,yeeeeaaaaa... damn. Got you already. Free-will? One of many areas I part ways with main stream Christianity. Don't believe in it. Makes no sense. It's the force behind the nonsense that God loves the sinner, but hates the sin.

2007-04-17 12:25:09 · answer #9 · answered by vox populi 3 · 0 0

Proof of free will?

Just watch the news. It is rife with proof that mankind has the freedom to do what they want.

Just because God is waiting doesn't mean He won't act.

2007-04-17 12:20:35 · answer #10 · answered by danni_d21 4 · 3 0

You posted this question of your own free will, I hope?
I know nobody forced me to click on it....
But I got two points our of the deal, so maybe God was behind it all the time....

2007-04-17 13:03:19 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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