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(I'm asking this again because no one made any effort to address my points.)

Science is a human endeavor and incapable of absolute perception (there are no absolute measurements in science)...therefore all scientific belief is, in fact, on the basis of faith (trust that the belief is true).

Science is based on the tautology 1=1, yet science is incapable of proving 1.

Science is conditional truth, not truth. Every scientific "truth" or "fact" (i.e. f = ma) is based on the assumption of conditions that can never be fully known, understood, or delineated.

Therefore, faith and science are not antonyms; science is merely faith applied.

Neither are truth and faith antonyms, as all truth (or "facts") must be accepted by faith (trust that the belief is true).

I know this recognition is unacceptable to people desiring a quick dismissal of all things "religious," but exactly how is science not based on faith?

"Science" cannot even be defined in an absolute sense.

2007-04-17 10:18:49 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Hebrew 12:2
Looking away unto Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our Faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down on the right hand of the throne of God

2007-04-17 10:22:48 · answer #1 · answered by show me the way 2 · 1 7

Science, on the flip side, has no qualms about acknowledging that it is founded on unprovable axioms.

There's a difference though, between a belief and an axiom. A belief is held as true no matter what -- an axiom is entirely take it or leave it.

Start with the Euclidean axioms. Hrrrrm... don't like the parallel line axiom? Fine, throw it out... you're now playing the hyperbolic geometry game instead of Euclidean geometry game. Neither set of axioms is more or less complete.

Science rests on three axioms -- and while they cannot be proven (hence, axioms), it can be demonstrated that if these axioms were not true, then no knowledge could be attained at all.

2007-04-17 10:26:13 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Your argument presents the idea that science itself is a theory - and I believe you have some good points. If I understand you (for example) we know how light works, we know it's there, but what is it? Do we think it's photons, or packets of heat, or energy or what?
Perhaps we can think of it this way - there are many facts about science that are irrefutable, (gravity, e=mc2, pi etc) but there are many growing and changing theories about our research as well.
When speaking about historical evidence, for example, we are taught that the world is billions of years old - but is it? No one was there to witness and record the facts at the beginning. No can tell you for certain what species developed when.... all of that is based on the assumption that the world must be billions of years old. If we begin to explore different options regarding the age of the earth, where will that take us?

blessings :)

2007-04-17 10:44:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

WRONG, the absolute measurement is THE EVIDENCE. I think therefore I am. With 0 zero evidence to the contrary,I KNOW this to be a fact therefore my 5 senses with independent verification show what is real and what isn't. If I look through a microscope I can see microorganisms they are real it is a fact,not faith. other people will look through it and see the same thing,more independent verification,the evidence is the measurement. after all do you take it on faith that you asked this question or do you KNOW it?

2007-04-17 10:48:03 · answer #4 · answered by boxer 2 · 1 0

you're criticizing technological expertise's self correction mechanism as though a dogmatic technological expertise may be of any use in any respect. And technological expertise is often fullyyt provisional, so "comprehend" is unquestionably in straight forward terms utilized in vernacular words. you're conflating non secular faith with faith that issues will proceed to act the way they provide the effect of being to have performed in the previous. One is concept with out info, the different is easy empiricism. once you upward thrust up contained in the morning the "faith" you have that gravity will artwork isn't the comparable element as your non secular faith. Pretending it relatively is is cheating. i'm unlikely to do your little try. you does no longer comprehend if I googled the solutions besides, so there is not any end you may desire to probably draw from my responses. yet your significant question, how plenty do atheists comprehend approximately technological expertise? i will in straight forward terms communicate for myself. I actually have a Bachelor of technological expertise degree. and that i'm sufficiently properly versed in some components exterior my container that i will examine magazine articles that seem interesting. satisfied?

2016-10-03 03:32:59 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Science has developed ways of verifying specific things. You're talking around in circles to ensure that believers agree with you. It doesn't take faith to conduct tests and verify the results. That is fact, not faith.

Not all things in science are verifiable, so testing continues. If your reasoning were true, we'd accept every hypothesis without testing it by having faith in our logic and reasoning, which is not the case.

2007-04-17 10:24:26 · answer #6 · answered by Rogue Scrapbooker 6 · 5 0

Science is a good thing and is the natural inquiry by Mankind of things that have potential beneficial applications,in itself it is not bad or evil but man can use science for destructive purposes too.
God has put at our disposal all that we need to find Him and to discover His thumbprint in everything, science is often made to be God by many and this is our fault and not that of science.

2007-04-17 10:32:10 · answer #7 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 0 0

Suppose, for a moment, that you looked in your fridge one day and found your jar of grape jelly to be missing. You consult three of your closest friends in an attempt to discover where your grape jelly went to.

Friend #1 is a Christian. He says, "Your grape jelly has been stolen by a giant purple tyrannosaurus rex. We know this because it says so in the bible."

Friend #2 is a Muslim. He says, "Your grape jelly has been beamed up to an alien spaceship where small green men are using it in a plot to take over the world. We know this because it says so in the Koran."

Friend #3 is an atheist. He says he doesn't know where your grape jelly is, but he'll try to help you find out where it went.

In your kitchen, the refrigerator door is standing open, and there are grape jelly stains on its handle in the shape of tiny human hands. There are also tracks of mingled mud and grape jelly that lead away from the fridge and out the back door of your house, off the porch, and into the forest. While following the tracks you find both a flip-flop and a hat that you swear belong to the seven-year-old daughter of one of your neightbors.

Finally you arrive at a picnic table in the middle of the forest, on which are set plates containing half-eaten peanut-butter and jelly sandwiches. An empty jar of peanut butter and an empty jar of grape jelly are lying in the grass nearby; the jelly jar looks remarkably like the one you remember leaving in your fridge.

On the picnic table is a note, addressed to you, that says, "Thanks for letting us borrow your grape jelly!" It's signed with the name and handwriting of your neighbor's daughter, whose clothes you found on the way to the table.

Based on this evidence, your atheist friend concludes that it's very likely that your grape jelly was borrowed by your neighbor's daughter for use in a forest peanut-butter-and-jelly-sandwich picnic.

Can you PROVE that your grape jelly was stolen by your neighbor's daughter? Well, technically, FUNDAMENTALLY, no, you can't actually PROVE it.

But what would you believe?

2007-04-17 11:01:50 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Science is based on what can be proven (known facts at the time).

Science is also testing ans retesting itself anytime it looks as if some new evidence (Evedence that wasn't present at first is available) surfaces.

Faith is nothing more then conditioned ideas that are never to be challenged and can never change!!!!
Faith is taking what someone else tells you and not thinking for yourself or drawing your own conclusions based on anything!
Faith in NOT based on fact but ancient outdated superstition!

Science is NOT faith!
Science is based on reality!
Faith is based on fantasy!

2007-04-17 10:27:26 · answer #9 · answered by Gorgo 1 · 3 1

I think of things in terms of probabilities. I don't know with 100% certainty that if I drop an apple it will fall, hence I don't have faith. I don't have a belief that it will always happen. Faith would be saying that you KNOW it will fall.

2007-04-17 10:32:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If you have such a problem with science, go ask this question in the science section. I'm sure those scientist will help you out more than any of us can.

2007-04-17 10:22:56 · answer #11 · answered by Armund Steel 3 · 3 1

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