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The other day, I posted a question about how people view the brutality of nature. I received many great responses - and the majority of them seemed to say that Adam and Eve's sin brought an end to the perfection that was earth...

Ive since engaged in conversation with several people based upon that premise. If God is truly Perfect, he can only create that which is also Perfect. OK, Adam and Eve ruined perfection on earth - but why isnt the Universe Perfect? Well, Im told that Adam and Eve's sin caused the entire universe to become un-perfect...

Now, Ive also heard several times on this site that the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics PROVES that God exists, because the earth doesnt not spiral into entrophy, as it should if it were in chaos. The 2nd Law pertains ONLY TO CLOSED SYSTEMS.

So, seeing as that Christians want to use the 2nd Law as proof, you CANNOT state that Adam and Eve affected anything OUTSIDE of the planet...

Q: How can Eve's sin have affected the universe???

2007-04-17 05:52:08 · 4 answers · asked by ? 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Granted, the major flaw in this argument is that the earth is NOT A CLOSED SYSTEM - so the 2nd Law doesnt prove anything... But Christians still like to use this Law erroneously. So with that in mind, seeing as you view the world as a closed system, how possibly could Eve's transgressions have affected the universe to make it un-perfect??

You cant have it both ways. Please explain.

2007-04-17 05:54:09 · update #1

4 answers

There's a slew of flaws with the lot of it. Here's a big one:

Assuming for the point of this argument that there is a 'perfect god,' this does not say that everything s/he/it makes is also perfect. Creations not only could be produced with intentional flaws, they would HAVE to be or else they too would be gods (if you use god as an example of perfection).

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LOL -- Fuddles. You're going to hell. I don't believe in hell, but I think for you I'll make an exception. I love ya! I'm putting you in my contacts list.

2007-04-17 05:58:01 · answer #1 · answered by SDTerp 5 · 2 0

God is indeed perfect, but he created people to have free thoughts and Eve decided with free thinking to partake in what then led to the events as it is today.

2007-04-18 12:02:18 · answer #2 · answered by hello kitty 1 · 0 0

For the more simple-minded ( :-) ): If God is perfect, why did He create anything? Including thermo-dynamics.

2007-04-17 12:59:20 · answer #3 · answered by strpenta 7 · 0 0

What if we got a really tiny Adam and Eve and put them in a peanut butter jar, left them on the shelf for a while, then see what happens...okay, well OPEN the jar then!

2007-04-17 12:58:04 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

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