Writing a script for college and the subject of the devil is confusing me?

Question

I'm writing a script for college about the 7 deadly sins and currently enjoying finding more about demons, angels, devil, god and stuff. however...i've hit a point where i'm just lost.

It says the Demon of Wrath is Satan. but the demon of Pride is Lucifer. I've created these as seperate entities living in hell along with the other 5 deadly vices...
So...now im confused. Who is the devil? I've heard that lucifer was once called satan. or the other way round- i forget.
So how can christians believe that these demons are the two vices when they think that they are the same person?
Or am i just going off in the completely wrong direction?
I dont want to twist a religion as i want to keep it consise with beliefs but i'm so confused now!
Satan was an angel who fell from heaven. Are the demons the other angels that fell with him? [i read a 1/3 of angels followed]
if anyone could explain this to me, if not for my own curiosity now other than my failing script, i would appreciate it :)

Thanks for the answers so far but that doesnt really explain why the demons of the sins are called both lucifer AND satan

I might just make him scitzophrenic?

Answer 1

Here's a "questions from readers" that seems to be asking a similar question to yours. I hope it helps!

Questions From Readers

· Is Lucifer a name that the Bible uses for Satan?

The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”

The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.” The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means “bringer of dawn.” Hence, some translations render the original Hebrew “morning star” or “Daystar.” But Jerome’s Latin Vulgate uses “Lucifer” (light bearer), and this accounts for the appearance of that term in various versions of the Bible.

Who is this Lucifer? The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.” Thus, it is part of a saying primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty. That the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature is further seen by the statement: “Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind—not a place occupied by Satan the Devil. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” Clearly, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature.—Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.

Why is such an eminent description given to the Babylonian dynasty? We must realize that the king of Babylon was to be called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way. (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride prompted Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them. So great was the arrogance of the dynasty that it is portrayed as bragging: “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”—Isaiah 14:13, 14.

“The stars of God” are the kings of the royal line of David. (Numbers 24:17) From David onward, these “stars” ruled from Mount Zion. After Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the name Zion came to apply to the whole city. Under the Law covenant, all male Israelites were obliged to travel to Zion three times a year. Thus, it became “the mountain of meeting.” By determining to subjugate the Judean kings and then remove them from that mountain, Nebuchadnezzar is declaring his intention to put himself above those “stars.” Instead of giving Jehovah credit for the victory over them, he arrogantly puts himself in Jehovah’s place. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the “shining one.”

The pride of the Babylonian rulers indeed reflected the attitude of “the god of this system of things”—Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above Jehovah God. But Lucifer is not a name Scripturally given to Satan.

The chief oppressor of the human race is Jehovah God’s great adversary, Satan the Devil. His very name Satan means “opposer”, whereas his name “Devil” means “slanderer, false accuser”.

And, as a few other people have already answered you, yes, the "1/3 of the angels" that "fell" from heaven or were cast out, are indeed the spirit creatures who became Satan's horde of demons. To save space, I'm not including references, but if you want some, feel free to contact me.

Finally, the "seven deadly sins" are sins but not necessarily individually represented by individual spirit creatures. However, the instigator of their existence and the perpetrator of their continued occurrence is none other than Satan and his demons.

Answer 2

Lucifer was the name of angel q. He was the angel of music and was supposedly beautiful. The story goes that he became so proud and arrogant, he didn't want to serve Gods' new favorite creation, man. Instead, he wanted to rule along with God-be His equal. So, God (in His infinite wisdom) banishes angel q (who is Lucifer) from heaven and as he falls, 1/3 of the angels go with him.
However, I read once that 'Lucifer' was in fact the name of a Babylonian king. In the garden, it is a talking snake that tempts Adam & Eve-not a resentful angel. The word 'satan' is not used until the Book of Job and there, in the oldest manuscripts we know of, the word for 'satan' is not a name; it is an adjective describing an anti-human angel. Not anti-God. Not until the New Testament do the words and names of various 'bad guys' all combine into one entity called 'Satan', who is the 'anti' or opposite of God. There's even a verse in the Old Testament (Isaiah 45:7) where God is quoted as saying 'I make peace and create evil. I, the Lord, do all these things.' Which contradicts the notion that there's a powerful deity who does such things.
The 7 deadly sins are a Catholic thing. I was raised Protestant so I'm not terribly familiar with each.

Answer 3

I think the idea of the 7 deadly sins are a Catholic concept. There are no great or small sins. That's man's concept of "I'm not so bad." The Christian bible says that thoes names belong to The Devil. The only other demons mentioned referred to themselves as legion (meaning many). In the book of Revelations it says that demons were released out of the mouth of the anti-Christ like frogs, but didn't give them names. You are correct about the other angels that fell with Satan. The Bible is big on changing names. It represents a change of heart. Lucifer was the star of the morning and he changed. Paul became Saul in the book of Acts. And Jesus gave all his deciples new names.
I love writing and have read a lot of stories that try to capture the Christian faith in some form or another.It say's a lot about you that you would try to give an honest representation. I hope God shows you the truth and makes a good work in you.

Answer 4

Satan and Lucifer are the same thing. A third of the angels in heaven followed him to hell.Satan tried to be like God and was the most beautiful angel of them all and played wonderful musice but God cast him out because he rose up against God. Ever since then Satan has been doing all sorts of evil.

Answer 5

Are you writing this from a Christian point of view or are you balancing it?

Originally Lucifer was one of the Greek pantheon of gods, brother of Diana. He was the bringer of light and knowledge, and is still recognised by pagans today. In this point of view Lucifer is absolutely nothing to do with the Christian/Muslim devil/Satan. The use of the name Lucifer was another of those church plots to prevent the masses from worshipping their own local gods, by naming the devil Lucifer, then that makes people think that any worshippers of Lucifer are devil-worshippers. Pagans do not believe in the notion of devil or satan, there is no big bad evil force. Pagan gods/godesses have a fully rounded nature and the capacity for emotions and deeds that are not all 'good'. Try looking at other sources for information other than the bible or christian writings and you may find some very interesting points for your essay!

Answer 6

There are many different understandings within Christianity as to who is Satan and who is Lucifer and who is the Devil. The name Satan comes from the Book of Job, which uses the word ha'satan (the Adversary) to describe the being who was tempting and destroying Job's life. His actions in Job are why you might find him identified with wrath. Scholars and believers alike are split about whether ha'satan was an agent of God who reported to God or if he is the fallen angel who left heaven to become as powerful as God.

The name Lucifer comes from the Book of Isaiah. Lucifer means "light-bearer." In Isaiah it refers to a Babylonian king. However, like Satan, there is some disagreement about whether Lucifer is just a human king or if he is a fallen angel. Traditional understandings label Lucifer as the fallen angel who desired to be as powerful as God. Therefore, he was thrown out of Heaven along with 1/3 of the angels who chose to follow him. By considering himself to be equal to God, Lucifer would be connected with the sin of pride.

To complicate matters even more, the Devil is not clearly identified in Christian scriptures. A devil is commonly used as another name for a demon. When it is capitalized, Devil is considered to be the title of the leader of the demons. Demons would be the fallen angels who were kicked out of Heaven. Therefore, the Devil would be the leader of fallen angels, meaning that Lucifer and the Devil would be the same person according to tradition. For those who claim ha'satan is against God, Satan would share the same story with Lucifer. So, in traditional Christian thought, Lucifer, Satan, and the Devil are one being who is seeking to prove he is equal to or greater than God.

I hope that helps.

Answer 7

Satan, the Devil, Lucifer...these are some of the names of the same angel that fell from heaven and now roams the earth, seeking whom he may destroy. Some other names are: Abaddon,Accuser,Adversary,Angel of the bottomless pit,Appolyn,Belial,Beelzebub,God of this World,Murderer,Prince of Devils, Prince of the Power of the Air,Prince of this World,Ruler of Darkness,Serpent,Tempter, Unclean Spirit, & Wicked One. Where as, some other references to devils would be the ones who followed Lucifer when he fell from heaven( 1/3 of the angels).
Lucifer is his original name when he was the brightest angel God ever created. Alas, that beauty was a source of pride for him and he believed himself greater than God.....big mistake. If anyone earned the title demon of pride, it's him. Christians generally know by the reference in context whether the scripture is talking about Lucifer or one of the other angels(demons). You can read about Satan's fall from heaven in the text listed below. Satan has many vices, but is most remembered for his pride. He is totally evil and he & his followers spend all their time tempting humans to sin, lying about just about everything(sometimes with an once of truth for believability), slandering the saints, inflicting disease, opposing the righteous, and he even tempted Christ when Christ was here on earth. I hope this helps you understand who Satan is. Thanks for the question and God bless you.

Answer 8

Lucifer Satan the Devil Beelzebub are all the same Being or the Fallen Angel.
It is just like we say God Allah Jehovah Lord, they are different words but the same Being-God
The seven deadly sins are vices which humans commit
Pride is linked to the Devil or Satan etc.

Answer 9

Traditional Judaism knew about Satan from references in Job and Zechariah (possibly some other books, I haven't recently read some Old Testament books). He was an accuser of God's righteous servants, but not definitely seen as God's adversary - there are few passages about him.

In the New Testament Jesus ministry thoroughly exposed demons, and his teaching taught that Satan had fallen from grace ("I saw Satan fall like lightning"). Also that he heads up a kingdom of rebel angels. That the demons that Jesus cast out were part of Satan's oppressive strategy.

After Jesus died and rose again, he explained many of the semi-obscure old Testament passages of prophecy showing how they applied to his first coming. (There are also some obvious prophecies about the Messiah.) We don't have that description of what he explained on the Emmaus road in one of his appearances after resurrection, when he opened the scriptures to some disciples. However we do have in the epistles (letters of the apostles) many prophetic quotes from the Old Testament, some obvious and some not so obvious (but if you accept Jesus as Messiah clearly they are).

In this same way, some christians have regarded Ezekiel 28:12-19 as words about Satan, in ways which orthodox jews wouldn't. The passage initially seems to be about a king but then you see he was in Eden from the start, so no real mortal, and also called a guardian cherub (a type of angel).

There is also teaching about Satan and his rebel angels in the epistles.

Demons can influence people by mental suggestions, oppress them by repeatedly pressuring them in some way they know of that torments the person or into serious sin, and can actually gain possession when a person gives way totally. According to the gospels they are behind some sicknesses.

I'm not sure if demons are angels, although they are spirit rebels set against God; they seem to be land-bound. Possibly they are low status angels. According to the brief descriptions of Satan's organisation Paul gives, there is a hierarchy to his organisation, just as there is with God's angels. You can see high status angels in the book of Daniel opposing Daniel's prayers.

Pride is something you would expect Satan to encourage in humans, as it is said to be the worst sin.

ADDED: I don't know what source you are looking at, it may be a particular individual's or denominations' speculations. I recommend you broaden your investiagtion to other christian denominations's teaching.

Possibly as Lucifer, the Devil would be associated with pride, as initially it was pride that caused him to fall, when the name some have associated with him at that stage is Lucifer. Then as Satan, he would mainly be about wrath, because after rebellion his hatred of God and his graced creatures would become a settled attitude of mind. It says he is wrathful in seeking victims in 1 Peter 5.

Answer 10

You are assuming that Lucifer, Satan, and the Devil are different entities? I have never heard that.
Lucifer is supposedly the name of God's angel who rebelled in Heaven and was thrown down. "Satan" is a title that means "the accuser." It is one title for Lucifer. Another title is "the Devil" (think d + evil).

Christians do not separate these as different beings.

Answer 11

Bumblecustard was the closest so far, so I gave her a thumbs up.

However, to find the origin of the 'Evil One' you have to go back quite a bit further. The model for Lucifer, Light Bringer indeed, was Seth.

Seth was the Neteru brother of Osiris, 'Gods' of pre-Dynastic Egypt.

The original Osirian cult which had it's base in the city of On, better known by it's Greek name, Heliopolis, close to present day Cairo. This religion had a long and steady down-hill spiral, in the course of which the priests were having more and more difficulty controlling the willful masses.

Having run out of earthly punishments for transgressions against the priestly dogma ( just another control mechanism ) they literally invented a really 'Bad Guy' with whom to scare the living daylights out of you if you died in a state of 'disgrace'.

So Seth was 'fingered' for the job of 'Black hat'. A legend was duly minted that involved much mayhem and intrigue. First Seth was supposed to have murdered his brother Osiris, and cut him into pices and scattered the peices around the land so that Isis, Osiris' wife, who was quite a little magician all in her own right, couldn't put him back together again. He even lopped of Osiris' pecker and threw it into the Nile to ensure that he could not be re-assembled complete with all moving parts.

Isis did find all the pieces, except the afore-mentioned appendage, and magicked Osiris back to life, complete with artificial inseminator, jumped his bones and impregnated herself with Horus their only child. The story goes on somewhat, but Horus, on maturity, challenges his wicked uncle Seth, and beats his bad *ss down to the underworld, where he becomes Head Honcho of the bad guys.

This is the start, and all versions in Judeo-Christian-Islamic scripts derive from this roughly five thousand year old tale.

It is a well concealed fact that most of current day Judaism, Islam, and Christianity have their origins in Osirian belief systems, Moses, an acclaimed 'prophet' in all three, was a fully trained Osirian adept. The story of the High Priests and the rods turned to snakes is very telling, if you know how to interpret it. Moses was the arch-renegade of On, and took everything he had learned, including the 'tricks of the trade' and used them to set up his own cult.

I would also suggest that he stole some quite awesome artifacts from On, before he left with the 'Children of Israel, and it was those that Rameses was chasing, not the troublesome, recalcitrant, Israelites. The so-called 'Arc of the Covenant' was a box, the manufacture of which was described in some detail. The contents remain a little wooly. There were certain items kept in On that were said to have 'earth shaking power', and the things described in Exodus and Deuteronomy seem to be indicative of this.

But I digress.....again. The answer is that the Egyptian Priesthood invented Lucifer, or at least the model for him, and all the other lessor demons.

The Vedas had a parallel version, and there is always the intriguing possibility that Abraham is, in fact, our old Hindu friend, Brahma ! But that's yet another story.