I am terrified of the people who keep saying, what if the students were armed?

Question

Is this the mentality of the country we live in?

Do people really believe we would be better off if we all walked around carrying a gun?

Have you read the number of postings on this site alone which claims....that if the students would have been armed that this tragic accident may not have happened?

Is this of Christ?

Many Americans are not responsible in the rest of their lives...how could we trust so many with a gun?

Answer 1

More than one year before today's unprecedented shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, the state's General Assembly quashed a bill that would have given qualified college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus.

At the time, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said he was happy to hear of the bill's defeat, according to the Roanoke Times.

"I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus," the Virginia Tech spokesman said.


Hypothesis: banning legal guns from campus will make the campus safer
Observed Evidence: 60 shooting victims, 32 fatal
Conclusion: hypothesis fails

Answer 2

I wouldn't trust most americans with a fork, let alone a gun for each one of them.

That's sheer stupidity & insanity. While guns may be useful for defense, they are also extremely dangerous in the wrong hands. What good would everyone having a gun be if there was a sniper perched on a rooftop somewhere? What if every student is armed and they go out & use their new toy to rob a bank or a store. That's a nightmare just waiting to happen.

The responsibility lies in those who's JOB it is to protect. The police should have cleared the campus after the first attack, but they had assumed it was an "isolated incident" and kept classes in session which doubled the death count when the shooter went to the other side of the campus. They should've gotten everyone out of there, or put the whole place on lockdown.

If anything the students should be trained on what to do in such an occurance, but leave the guns to those who's job it is to use them.

Answer 3

Stupid is and says what stupid does. Really. I have already posted what I think about guns! My parents were pistol and rifle champions, but did not allow guns in the house. They were kept locked up at the club rooms. In Australia the govt did a gun buy back. Wow America would probably go broke! Having a gun except if there is a damn good reason and special licence is FROWNED UPON here! If every house has a gun and just one guy in your street loses control? Really what a mess. Get rid of the guns. Find a way to hand them all in and destroy them. The only people who have guns should be those who need them for special jobs of protection. There should be decent rewards for people who do the right thing in what they do in life and that way people will strive towards good. This should start in school. People have to be made to feel doing good is worthwhile and stop the whats the use excuse.

Answer 4

I was chief of police at two small univeristies in a state with a restrictive concealed carry policy that involved thorough background checks and a need to carry. So I was quite comfortable with those who came onto the campus armed, and they were never responsible for any incidents. In Virginia, anyone with a driver's license can get a firearm, and I am not comfortable with that. I agree that I don't trust just anyone with a gun. We license drivers, surely we should license and screen gun owners and require training. How do you have a well-regulated militia that can't shoot straight?

If an off-duty or retired police office had been in the vicinity then perhaps the shooter could have been engaged and at least contained if not killed. That anyone carrying a gun could have done so is another proposition. Maybe. Maybe not. With a couple hundred million guns in private hands out there it's sort of a moot point whether gun control will ever cont4ol these sorts of instances. What isn't moot is that the campus clearly had no plan for such an event, so no campus wide allert was issued for almost two hours, that by email. I believe if there had been a lockdown procedure it might have helped.

As to whether people walking around armed is of Christ, let's ask Jesus:

Matthew 10:34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her motherinlaw—

Luke 22:36-37 36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'[a]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

So the answer to that question is , yes, walking around armed is of Christ, and you are trying to project your revulsion of weapons onto Jesus to claim moral authority for your revulsion of weapons.

Answer 5

I was watching fox news last night and those retards started complaining how guns aren't allowed on the campus and that this could have been avoided if the students or professors were armed. Absolutely ridiculous. Those talking heads on fox are ******* idiots. Nobody could have dreamed something like this would happen, even after the first 2 were found. This was a horrible tragedy, school is not a place for weapons, it is a place to learn and feel free to explore different avenues of thought without fear of having those thoughts trampled on by society. Allowing weapons on school to prevent shooting rampages will solve nothing, only create more danger.

Answer 6

Yep

Jesus said sell all you own and buy a sword, but those who live by the sword die by the sword.

But if ONE student in that class pulled out a Ruger and hit the door frame next to that shooters head, he'd have scramed from that room and less students would have died.

A man with a gun is not afraid of anything, except someone shooting back at him.

Like rape, it's about power. He had it. He used it. He abused it.

Answer 7

Yeah, the logic is totally flawed in thinking that this would've been prevented by more guns. I mean, if he was suicidal, it really wouldn't matter if the people were armed, or not. He probably would've tried to take out as many people as he could, before somebody took him out.

It is true, that had all the people been armed in this particular situation, the guy wouldn't have been able to kill so many people. No doubt about it.

BUT... that would hardly make up for all the fatalities that would occur if EVERYONE in our society armed themselves. Do you realize how many arguments would end up in senseless deaths?

Answer 8

I'd like to know how many people answering this have ever actually fired a gun, outside the safety of a controlled firing range, that is.
Events like these do tend to bring out the 'tough talkers', and certainly show who amongst us pays lip service to being a Christian, and who Actually walks in Christ.

American, I am not sure that anyone else has said this to you, but I am sorry for the loss your people have suffered.

Answer 9

Guns is not the answer. The answer to this was they should have shut down the campus by putting up barriers so no one can leave campus or come on. Classes should have been shut down when the first shooting happened. I blame all those deaths on those who did not lock down and inform students in time. My nephew was in the building next to where the second shooting took place. By God's grace he was unharmed.

Answer 10

It is a scary thought that this is the country we live in. What's even scarier is the amount of road rage confrontations that end in a shooting in LA. and yet some still think we should all be armed.

The scariest thought of them all is that people like primoa1970 are out there voting and raising kids.

sister would rather people listened to NRA propaganda then the media.