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2007-04-16 14:10:15 · 21 answers · asked by ? 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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For everyone else, yes. For me, no. =0)

2007-04-16 14:13:12 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Obedience is not a virtue, unless you are a slave or a pet.

In Judaic-Christian ethics, obedience is the central virtue. Adam and Even were kicked out of Eden because they did not obey.

William Jennings Bryan, the famous fundamentalist, named as his favorite hymn:
Trust and Obey
Trust and Obey
For there's no other way
To be happy in Jesus
But to trust and obey.

Learning to trust and obey is very desirable if you are a dog being trained. It is not a virtue in a human being.

The psychiatrist Thomas Szsaz says the disobedience of Adam was not "the fall," as it is usually called. It was a rise. That was a moment, he says, when man stood upright and made a choice and accepted responsibility for the consequences of his choice. No longer a mere beast, he became a man.

Max Stirner, in "The Ego and Its Own," points out that from birth you are conditioned to think that obedience is virtue. Parents, schools, churches, media, everybody works to make you obedient. The obedient child is called a "good" child.

For an example of the way blind obedience was honored in Victorian society, read Tennyson's "The Charge of the Light Brigade," then read Rudyard Kipling's bitter epilogue "The Last of the Light Brigade," which describes the way the English made heroes of their obedient military - but when they became old veterans they would let them be hungry and homeless.

A real authentic human being does not obey. He makes choices.

Percy Bysshe Shelley is pretty clear about what he thinks of obedience:
............................................... Obedience,
Bane of all genius, virtue, freedom, truth,
Makes slaves of men,
And of the human frame,
A mechanized automaton.
[Q. Mab iii, 177].

2007-04-16 14:36:35 · answer #2 · answered by fra59e 4 · 1 0

No obedience is not virtue.

See the meaning here:
virtue

vir·tue [vúrchoo]
(plural vir·tues)
noun
1. goodness: the quality of being morally good or righteous
a paragon of virtue

2. good quality: a quality that is morally good
Patience is a virtue.

3. admirable quality: a quality that is good or admirable, but not necessarily in terms of morality
4. christianity cardinal or theological morality: a cardinal virtue, e.g. justice or moderation, or theological virtue, e.g. hope or charity
5. chastity: the moral quality of being chaste, especially in a woman
6. worth: the worth, advantage, or beneficial quality of something
knew the virtue of thrift

7. christianity angel of fifth highest order: in the traditional Christian hierarchy, an angel of the fifth of the nine orders of angels


[12th century. Via Old French vertu < Latin virtus "manliness, excellence, worth" < vir "man, husband"]


-vir·tue·less, adjective
by virtue of because of, through the power of, or by the authority of something
make a virtue of necessity to do something with good grace, when you are obligated to do it anyway

.obedience

o·be·di·ence [ō bdee ənss, ə bdee ənss]
(plural o·be·di·enc·es)
noun
1. act of obeying: the act or practice of following instructions, complying with rules or regulations, or submitting to somebody's authority
2. church's rule: the religious authority exercised by a church, a priest, or another member of the clergy, or the people who are under this authority
jtm


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2007-04-16 14:21:37 · answer #3 · answered by Jesus M 7 · 0 0

Useless question. Obedience without questioning the authority is not a virtue.

2007-04-16 14:15:05 · answer #4 · answered by ShanShui 4 · 1 1

There was a time when we expected nothing of our children but obedience, as opposed to the present, when we expect everything of them but obedience.
Author: Anatole Broyard

2007-04-16 14:14:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Yes, but obedience requires trust in the one who you are submitting to. This is why God sent his Son, Jesus Christ, to take our punishment for sin by suffering and dying in our place in order to demonstrate His love for us and that He is trustworthy and worthy of our love and obedience.

2007-04-16 14:16:06 · answer #6 · answered by neofreshmao 3 · 1 1

the significant element to keep in mind is first to no longer lump a team of folk jointly. in basic terms through fact there have been Christians at that seminar, does no longer mean 'each' Christian will improve their babies in that way. whilst elevating your babies make constructive they comprehend that there are expectancies in the domicile and if the policies are not accompanied there are effects. yet whilst exterior of the domicile, they might desire to comprehend that that's extremely properly to checklist or disobey somebody who's bodily hurting them. teach them with regard to the suitable and incorrect way that absolutely everyone seems to be to touch them. I abhor mothers and fathers who hit or yell at their babies, there is relatively no clarification for hitting or yelling at their babies; those human beings might desire to learn different tactics of discipline that does no longer bodily, mentally, or emotionally injury their youngsters.

2016-10-03 02:28:56 · answer #7 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Sometimes you may choose to follow an order out of respect for another, or out of consideration if respect isn't present, as long as it's not evil. But if you have no choice but to follow an order, it cannot be considered virtuous.

2007-04-16 14:25:42 · answer #8 · answered by Nowpower 7 · 1 0

When I think of obedience, I think of obedience to God. Yes, it is of prime importance and I need to pray for it!

2007-04-16 14:14:06 · answer #9 · answered by Esther 7 · 0 2

It is. Many people feel that the commandments are burdensome and that they limit freedom and personal growth. But the Savior taught that true freedom comes only from following Him: "If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:31–32). God gives commandments for our benefit. They are loving instructions for our happiness and for our physical and spiritual well-being.

2007-04-16 14:15:07 · answer #10 · answered by Kerry 7 · 1 2

Depends on who you're being obedient to.

2007-04-16 14:16:40 · answer #11 · answered by Amalthea 6 · 0 2

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