really now, you christians say we have freewill?

Question

why dont you explane how that freewill thing works to those 2MILLION CHILDREN THAT WHERE MURDERED
IN THE GAS CHAMBERS OF HITLERS DEATH CAMPS!!!!
WHAT DID THEY GET TO CHOSE TO CRAP THERE PANTS WHEN THEY WERE BEING MURDERED!

funny how god just abandons his chosen people
if he does that to them what makes you think he's going to anything for YOU

uvdalz68 your a vile sinner so i guess your going to hell right?
Schneb i guess your god fails everyone!
lehra r i guess will not be exsecting any magical miracles from your god right?
yvonne b i guess hitler had no freewill because he was a "madman driven by satan"right?

crimthann69 so i guess your saying god was a murderer right?
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"God was however in the destruction of those people who did the killing"
god also killed innocent children
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"you doubt me just avoid filing your taxes tomorrow or pay your taxes and see how free you remain."
those children didnt get to pay there taxes but you do right?
matt d
stop twistying my words around
i said 2million "innocent" children not 6 million jews

when an all powerfull god does nothing in face evilness just proves that he's is evil
when you see a man drowning you dont just sit back and watch
your bible did claim your god did do miracles where were these peoples miracles when they cried for there god?

a touching little story schneb
but it doesnt change what god didnt do!

joyful noise
how did those
2MILLLION INNOCENT CHILDREN
abandon your god?
i guess doomsday came early for them

spike
the holocaust negated the free will of those innocent children

no john_d_ayer
your god righted wrongs in past
why not now?
2million deaths thats an allfull lot of death to ignore
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"Sorry. Your life, your choices. What happens to you is not as important as what you choose to do about it."
what choice did those children have?

Answer 1

U KNOW THEY LIVE A LIE BUT THANKS FOR POINTING IT OUT A LITTLE MORE!

Answer 2

Why don't you research what freewill means before you start your rant. Freewill means that we have a choice to accept God or not. We choose how we deal with hardships and in general how we let the world affect us.

Because of evil people and the nature of an evil world we do not always have freedom. In truth freedom is a myth. If you doubt me just avoid filing your taxes tomorrow or pay your taxes and see how free you remain.

God was not in the murder of those people. God has not been in the murder business since Biblical times and that was a specific group for a specific time. God was however in the destruction of those people who did the killing. Not to mention he strengthened those that called upon him.

We are in a sinful world and until the second coming bad things will continue to happen to all people and God's people are not exempt, but we have an ace up our sleeves. God will see us through or see us home.

Answer 3

Man did the bad stuff and God gave us the stuff to get through the world even though the radicals may try killing us. God gave us free will to never do wrong or do bad things, but we still do. He gave us free will to go with him or be against him. We like to blame God for everything that is bad but he gave us the ability to counter the evil and make good out of it.

We think death is horrible because the world say so. The people that died from Hitlers SS are in heaven and if they had a chance they would never come back. They are happy and in the presence of the Creator.

Old people, jailed prisioners and the poor are scorned by the world as useless but they are getting closer to going home to God. Babies die and teens die but Jesus is there waiting to take away the pain for ever. Jesus is waiting to take us home at the moment we check out of this world. You either believe that or not.

God is not evil but humans tend to be. However evil entered the world, we don't know. But we do know Jesus was/is the fulfillment of love in the New Testament. So pray that the radicals of this world learn to live in peace and follow the New Testament that tells us of the love Jesus wants us to have: that is love; for everyone no matter what religion, ethnicity, gender or age they are. Peace is the only way to the heart of terrorists. Pray for a change to their hearts and pray that the Lord will do his thing in our time. Jesus has/will won the war of love no matter how bad hate seems to get.

The free will is God's plan to let man with his help; make good from evil. So the question is what are we doing that is good? What do we do that promotes anger? Choose!

Answer 4

The people who did the killing still had Free Will to choose to do good or evil. They chose evil. This grieves God very much. Don't think for a second that He gets any pleasure from watching His children disobey.
However, I know that Christ is returning soon, and all those who have been wronged will be vindicated. The saved will be resurrected into new, perfect, physical bodies, like what Christ had after His resurrection. All the vile sinners who have been responsible for all the evil this world has seen will be permanently destroyed, and the Saved will be able to enjoy a New Heaven and a New Earth. We will eventually forget all the bad things that happened to us here on this dying planet.

Answer 5

Children are innocent until they reach a certain age. Regardless of the above statement, people who ask questions like this very rarely take into consideration the fact of something after this physical life. They deny as part of their rejection of God that the humans contain a soul until the point of death and this soul continues to exist after the body dies. They deny that there are other forces at work which seek to turn people from fellowship with God and destroy human life. Hitler and his followers are responsible for the murders and God has rewarded the suffering of His littlest children with everlasting life with Him in Heaven.

Answer 6

If anything what you said is a proof for freewill and self-determination. Hitler hated Jews, and therefore carried out a plan against them to oppress them and kill them.

Sometimes life isnt fair son, and bad things happen to us that we dont deserve.

Can you prove that all 6 million some jews that got killed were orthodox God-fearing jews? With all bad things in life that happen to everyone, it is either brought on by God curses from the beginning of our history (like natural disasters) or it is either God bringing judgment (which he did many times in Israels history) or it is because of the natural actions of evil people. (like hitler)

Your assertion that God doesnt care or there is no freewill doesnt apply in real life in any applicable way.

Answer 7

Esther is right. Where is all this anger coming from? Why are you hollering at us about something we had no control over? If you think what Hitler did to those poor children & their families, wait 'til the end times & see what the anit-christ does to the ones who believe. It won't be God doing it....and God Himself says He will step in and stop it or else the whole world would be destroyed, because it will be so bad. I pray you find answers for your issues, whatever they are and that you turn to God before it's too late for you. I don't want to anger you more, I only want to suggest you haven't found your true purpose on this earth and only God can show you what He created you for. He loves you more than you know right now....but He wants you to seek Him out so He can open His arms of love & surround you with inner peace & joy. Anger is not healthy and I pray you will conquer it quickly. God bless you for your honesty and sharing.

Answer 8

Well let's see. I guess Hitler had the free will to choose to murder those two million children and they had the free will to trust in God and know that it was their decision whether or not they would accept their situation and embrace it , knowing that they were not dying in vain. They could have fled, and been shot but they chose to remain strong and trust God with their fate. I have free will but that doesn't mean that I have a free pass through all of life's terrible circumstances.

Answer 9

Dear bad speller with the stuck caps lock:

Hitler used his Freewill to murder people.

Good people use their freewill to choose to care about others even when bad things happen to them.

I understand you would like God to make us all into slaves and force everyone to do what you think is right and to stay away from what you think is wrong. You have every right to want that.

I understand you want to go to heaven and tell God, "Listen, it is not the decisions I made the defined my life. It was everything everyone else did! I had no control over my thoughts or actions so you should let me into heaven."

Sorry. Your life, your choices. What happens to you is not as important as what you choose to do about it.

Answer 10

Jebus, you seem very angry.
You make a valid point in that those children had their free will taken from them.
Is it not true however, to have something taken from you, it must have been there in the first place?
You may be interested in knowing that it is God who wishes us to have free will (and the consequences thereof).
However, the world today is in the hands of Satan.
1 John 5:19.
He doesn't give a hoot about free will, except his own.

Answer 11

Stalin also murdered millions of Christians. What is your point? God prophesied that this would happen to His people. Don't think that He was not there with them in their suffering.
http://www.schneblin.com/studies/pdfs/the_lying_prophet.pdf

Have you walked through Yad Vashem? I have, three times! I sat in that memorial surrounded by thousands of stars lit by only three candles representing the souls of children as you listen to each name being read one after another. My heart broke. The heart of a Christian who's heart is one with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The God that brought them back into their land as He promised. So don't tell me about the horror. Show some respect for their memory.