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I have a physical copy of this and on my computer on Microsoft Office Proffessional Word - SAVED! I have done a detailed search and have not found these words in the Constitution. I have had Word under 'Find' and these word's are "NOT FOUND".

So.... If Someone out there can tell me where it is - Please let me know. If I am right! Then, the rule on Abortion and Several other issues that the United States Supreeme Court IS WRONG!

Please be gentle - this is an issue for the Religion and Spirituality section On this Blog. This is also a part of my Faith - Now, I Love This Country of America more than any other place - I've seen over forty countries and America is the ONLY place that I am willing to live.

Take Care and God Bless!

2007-04-16 11:07:08 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

12 answers

The idea comes from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote called the "Danbury Baptist Letter" which identified the United States as a Christian nation that would not be controlled by any specific sect of Christianity.

The popular ideology of "Separation of Church and State" comes from Karl Marx and the Communist/Socialist ideology that became popular in the United States in the 1920's and 1930's. The Supreme Court decided in a couple of split decisions in the 1940's that the Constitution implied a "Separation of Church and State" in two places, the First Amendment and a line in Article 4 (I think) which prevents the "testing", or questioning of candidates for public office about their religious views.

Congress regularly disregards this Article of the Constitution when questioning candidates for public office including the Supreme Court.

You are correct. There is no legal basis for the Constitution protection of Church and State and the best argument against the institution of such an ideology is the dissenting opinions of the Justices on landmark cases involving this ideology.

Legislation by Judiciary needs to be stomped out.

2007-04-16 11:17:15 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

The Supreme Court alone has the authority to determine what the Constitution and federal laws mean. If the Supreme Court says that the church and state are legally separated, then they are. Here's how it works:

Amendment #1 (because, yes, amendments are part of the Constitution):

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Supreme Court interpretations of this amendment have stated that the "establishment clause" also means freedom from religion. Arguably, the most important was Lemon v. Kurtzman, 91 S. Ct. 2105 (1971). A three-part tests must be used to determine if an action of government violates the establishment clause. 1) Government action must have a secular purpose; 2) the primary purpose must not be to inhibit or advance religion; 3) there must be no excessive entanglement between government and religion.

Other pertinent decisions/reviews:
McCollum v. Board of Education, 333 US 203 (1948)
Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 US 488 (1961)
Engel v. Vitale, 82 S. Ct. 1261 (1962)
Abington School District v. Schempp, 374 US 203 (1963)
Epperson v. Arkansas, 89 S. Ct. 266 (1968)
Stone v. Graham, 449 US 39 (1980)
Wallace v. Jaffree, 105 S. Ct. 2479 (1985)
Edwards v. Aquillard, 107 S. Ct. 2573 (1987)
Allegheny County v. ACLU, 492 US 573 (1989)
Lee v. Weisman, 112 S. Ct. 2649 (1992)

2007-04-16 11:21:08 · answer #2 · answered by jtrusnik 7 · 1 0

It would not say it in a variety of of words (those quite being Thomas Jefferson's). it grow to be even although the unique reason of the framers, for all the main obtrusive motives. "despite the fact that the final progression made interior the two final centuries in favour of this branch of liberty, & the entire corporation of it, in some areas of our u . s ., there continues to be in others a good bias in the direction of the previous blunders, that with out some form of alliance or coalition between Gov' & faith neither may be duly supported: Such certainly is the tendency to this variety of coalition, and such its corrupting effect on the two the events, that the possibility won't be in a position to be too heavily guarded against" --James Madison; from letter to Edward Livingston (July 10, 1822)

2016-10-03 02:17:44 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

"We are teaching the world the great truth that Governments do better without Kings & Nobles than with them. The merit will be doubled by the other lesson that Religion Flourishes in greater purity, without than with the aid of Government."

James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

"The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses."

John Adams, "A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America" (1787-88)

2007-04-16 11:17:47 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

The whole idea of the separation of church and state is NOT in the Constitution. It is in a letter from Jefferson to the Baptist Church in CT, reassuring them that they are protected from the state, not the other way around.

We need to restore Constitutional government in this country. That will remove government interference from about 90 % of the areas it has intruded, including education. The church is to be protected from government. The state has no authority over the church. The federal government is limited to its specific authorized areas, and prohibited from intruding into others by the Tenth Amendment of the Bill of Rights. Most Americans don't understand this, because they are victims of the public schools.

2007-04-16 13:39:28 · answer #5 · answered by iraqisax 6 · 2 1

It says that one religion cannot be forced on people. In other words, if kids want to have Bible Clubs, Bible Study Groups, or whatever at school, that's fine---as long as it's student initiated and attendance is optional. So, God was never "taken out" of public schools. They just made all the church stuff optional, which makes more sense. Does God force himself on anyone?

2007-04-16 11:17:46 · answer #6 · answered by I'm Still Here 5 · 1 1

The word "Trinity" isn't in the Bible.
So why should anyone believe that?

Christians say because the Bible implies it.
So does the Constitution with the Separation of Church and State

2007-04-16 11:21:00 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

separation of church and state is inherent in the First Ammendment of the Constitution in the establishment and free exercise clauses, prohibiting the government from establishing a state religion or prohibiting free exercise of religion. It all stems from the founding father's wish to protect US citizens from the religious persecution they felt in Europe.

2007-04-16 11:18:05 · answer #8 · answered by rom_a_tom 2 · 2 1

Atheists and liberal activists derive and twist it from the 1st amendment which simply states for the govt not to establish religion. (tell people what to believe)

They want to reinterpret it as "the govt shall not establish any law with a hint of religious influence" and that isnt what it says. For 200 years we've always had many laws that were religious in origin including do not murder.

The epidemic of liberalism is threatening to turn our govt into a mind-numbed atheistic juggernaut. Legalized infanticide is just the beginning!

2007-04-16 11:25:34 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

"separation of church and state" can be found in one of the federalist papers. then some people misinterpreted that and misquoted it and here we are today.

2007-04-16 11:13:54 · answer #10 · answered by treesandfleas 2 · 1 1

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