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Why do people put Catholics down for following tradition....


when the Bible tells us "to stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught..." (2 Thess 2:15)? The Bible also says "We instruct you brothers, in the name fo our Lord Jesus Christ, to shun any brother who conducts himself in a disorderly way and not according to the tradition they received from us." (2 Thess. 3:6) "I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold fast to the traditionsl, just as I handed them on to you." (1 Cor 11:2)

The Bible also tells us that not everything Jesus did and taught is in the Bible (Jn 21:25), and that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth(not scripture) (1 Tim 3:15)

So how can tradition be wrong?

God bless,
Stanbo

2007-04-16 09:18:06 · 23 answers · asked by Stanbo 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

LOL Thanks Father K...you're great.

2007-04-16 09:40:53 · update #1

QuellaB...wipe the dust of your Bible and read Luke chapter 1.

FC...very good, thank you.

salient2....that is not a tradition taught by the Catholic Church!!!

2007-04-16 09:55:46 · update #2

23 answers

The Bible is the kernel of Catholic tradition. Also we have the early church fathers who were close
associates of the apostles. Those Christians of other faiths who have read them frequently gain a more positive view of Catholicism.

2007-04-16 09:22:40 · answer #1 · answered by Shirley T 7 · 2 1

I'll admit that I've been occasionally confused by this. But then again, I'm a lifelong Catholic. Tradition is, of course, very important to our Catholic faith. I think that, following the Reformation, some people threw out the baby with the bathwater. They felt that if the Church was corrupt, somehow, her traditions must be corrupt, as well. I think that many Reformation-era ministers would be quite shocked if they could come back today and see certain types of modern Protestant worship services, because such services would be so vastly different from anything they'd ever known, understood, or intended. At any rate, if people don't want to observe Catholic tradition, that's their business, but I do wish they'd stop cutting me down about my right to do so.

2007-04-16 09:27:34 · answer #2 · answered by solarius 7 · 1 0

It comes in part from a time in the 50's when the Roman Catholic church, among others, was having a problem with people using tradition instead of action and belief. People went to church and followed the rules such as not eating meat on Friday etc, but they were just going through the motions, not living their faith in their hearts. This was changed by a big Church conference in the 60's called Vatican II, which set out to refresh and revitalize the church so that people would have faith in their hearts instead of just going through the motions on the outside. They began saying Mass in English instead of Latin, having music in the Mass and other more important changes. During that time some people got the idea that "traditional" meant "empty", and that perception lingers in funny ways today.

2007-04-16 09:59:10 · answer #3 · answered by Mother Amethyst 7 · 0 0

That is the New Testament you are talking about. IN the Old Testament, God said through His Prophet Jeremiah in Jeremiah 31:33-34 "This is the Covenant (New Law) I will make in with the house of Israel after that time," declares the Lord. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, "Know the Lord" because they will all know me, from the least to the greatest," declares the Lord.
What ever is written in The New Testament cannot be considered part of the tradition because the tradtition is still in the Old Testament. And that tradition you inserted are for Catholics only and those Christians who use the NT.

2007-04-16 09:37:48 · answer #4 · answered by Rallie Florencio C 7 · 0 1

I don't put Catholics down, i just think some of their traditions are not biblical. For example...Hail Mary full of grace..where's that in the Bible. Where's the scripture that tells you how many Hail Marys per sin?

Sprinkling water on a baby, the bible used full immersion.

I do believe that Catholics are Christians and are going to Heaven. As long as you've accepted Jesus, then traditions don't make or break your salvation.

2007-04-16 09:27:21 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Some catholic traditions such as witch burning and murdering heretics, are best forgotten.

Judging from the thumbs down response, some people obviously want to continue witch burning and murdering heretics. Too bad, I had thought most Catholics had moved beyond that.

Why can't, Just once, some Christian say Witch burning and murdering heretics was wrong instead of trying to justify it because "how can tradition be wrong". That is just sick.

Of course witch burning was indeed taught by the catholic church. Read your church history.

1227: Pope Gregory IX established the Inquisitional Courts to arrest, try, convict and execute heretics.

1252: Pope Innocent III authorized the use of torture during inquisitional trials.

1265: Pope Clement IV reaffirms the use of torture.

1326: The Church authorized the Inquisition to investigate Witchcraft and to develop "demonology," the theory of the diabolic origin of Witchcraft.

1484: Pope Innocent VIII issued a papal bull "Summis desiderantes" on DEC-5 which promoted the tracking down, torturing and executing of Satan worshipers.

How can you justify this? I would have more respect for you if you just said it was wrong. There is no way you can Justify it. Saying Oh well it was tradition so it can't be wrong is simply sick and perverted.

2007-04-16 09:30:30 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

Stanbo,
The Jewish Leaders followed their traditions rather than what they were supposeed to be doing from scripture. This was their downfall. The traditions that you speak of are in many cases the traditions of men not the Apostles. The Apostles writings are for our study and reliogious life yet the Catholics change their "traditions" as the changing of the winds with every new Pope. The scriptures are for our study not for our doorstep. I hope that you will begin reading, studying, and following the scriptures rather than your "religious leader". Have a great day.
Thanks,
Eds

2007-04-16 09:25:39 · answer #7 · answered by Eds 7 · 0 1

A better word for tradition in these verses is teachings.

The teachings that are referenced in the verses that were quoted are traditions that were handed down by God. The men who wrote these scriptures were preaching about the teachings that Christ taught concerning His church. They were not man-made traditions as the following verse points out.

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit" (2 Peter 1:20, 21).

We are instructed to avoid traditions of men (those that have no scriptural basis)

" Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. " Colossians 2:8

"For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do." Mark 7:8

Although not every minute of Jesus' life is detailed in the scriptures, they are complete. Nothing is to be added to the scriptures, and nothing is to be removed. Adding a creed book or a practice to a worship service that is not Biblically based is in violation of the scripture below.

"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:19

The word ALL is important in the following,

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Timothy 3:16

Notice it does not say "All Scripture and any man-made creeds".

The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. The Church is also defined as the "people", not the building. Jesus, the founder of the Church is also described as The Word. The Church and it's practices adhere to the word and the scriptures.

There are many traditions that the Catholic follow that are not Biblically based, for example, infant baptism, calling priests Father, musical instruments in worship, the Pope as the head of the church, etc. These are traditions of men and that is why discussions arise when Catholics follow these man-made traditions. Do not take what your preacher, priest, etc says for face value. Study the Bible for yourself to find the true answers.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15

2007-04-16 10:19:38 · answer #8 · answered by TG 4 · 1 1

Some protestant churchs and their flock are hooked on phonics sort of speak. They have just written words on a page and think that knowing the words and reciting them is a good way to worship. Some of them are just shallow and think words will suffice. But as Paul says "we are not of the word but of the spirit, for the word kills but the spirit gives life"

It's a matter of placing value in the right places and the pure intent of the heart.

2007-04-16 09:27:50 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Catholicism is a good solid christian religion. It teaches fine and worthy doctrines. I hold no malice against any Christian holding the Biblical teachings of the church and practicing them in their life. I do have a problem with anyone who says salvation comes by the church. Salvation is only in Christ Jesus. If you believe that then nothing else matters... Jim

2007-04-16 09:43:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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