I'm confused about people who believe in evolution?

Question

Some state that we started from "nothing" and others use the 1st law of thermodynamics stating that energy can neither be created nor destroyed? If they can undestand that energy can neither be created nor destroyed then why not believe in an "always there" god.

Or when they actually speak about no god, do they mean only the christian god? (since everyone always secludes the other religions in here when they say god) because Energy could technically be "God".

Answer 1

For those who study the origins of the solar system and evolution (in a broad, generalized sense) like myself there is an understanding that our solar system was not created by "nothing". Through the most basic elements of hydrogen and helium amalgamated through the explosion of an ancient star a nebular cloud formed which contained the energy necessary to generate nuclear fusion in which more complex elements were able to form.

Through collusion and friction gravity fields began to form in this vast nuclear cloud, with elemental differences varying in relativity to our proto-sun.

I could elaborate, but I think the point to be made is that intelligent evolutionists understand this vast time-frame of origins; even prior to the origin of our solar system. By oversimplifying your understanding of what evolutionists believe you're merely justifying your lack of an intelligent understanding of the evolutionary hypothesis. And I say hypothesis, because at least scientists are willing to amend their understanding of Earth's mechanics in light of more compelling evidence. Whereas Christian's will kill if people debate the existence of their God-Man Jesus Christ, when there is significantly less evidence to support his existence then there is in the Nebular Cloud hypothesis.

The idea of energy as God is a distinct Eastern belief and may be referred to as "the Tao" which means the "the way". It's not monotheistic, or even conventionally religious in the Westernized definition of the term, but it encompasses a spiritual connection to the universe and all beings. From an evolutionary stance we are all connected through a common origin, and thus share something rudimentary within us. Are we God? Is the inertia of evolution and the complexity of interaction God? Perhaps these are questions I'd better leave for you to answer on your own.

Answer 2

Do you believe you can explain away my evolution defense based on Crocodile fossils rationally?
There are 110 million year old fossils of crocodiles. There are not fossils of horses, house cats, cows, or any of thousands of species from that long ago age. If the creationists are to be taken as correct there should be fossils of all species dating to 110 million years ago. Else, the God of the Old Testament is without viable continuity of purpose and reason.
The only truthful argument against this theory is that the God of the Old Testament created even the fossils in place. Would this be to confound humans and cause strife in their midst? However, there is another pertinent question to be asked on the above defense. Why would this God also create living crocodiles of a line that still exist nearly unchanged? None of the large dinosaur of fossil fame exists.
I know that those of the Bible accept, and, in some cases cherish parables. Why can they not accept that the Genesis Creation is a parable for consumption of a people much less learned and advanced than those of today?

Cite:
One Big, Bad Croc
Scientist Discovers Largest Fossil of Ancient Crocodile

Paul Recer The Associated Press

W A S H I N G T O N, Oct. 25 — A crocodile longer than a school bus and weighing about 10 tons (9 metric tons) was the top predator in an African river 110 million years ago, routinely dining on large dinosaurs that came within range of its toothy jaws.

Answer 3

I agree that Energy technically is God because it is God who CREATED all things. Evolution should not be a problem for believers because it is a method by which life came into being. Who can know the mind of God? As I mentioned in another answer, we try so hard to put things into a framework we can understand, but, just suppose, there is this vast-and I think merciful and loving-Energy outside of our own physics that we can not possibly understand.? How wonderful that is!

Answer 4

I don't think anyone is stating we came from 'nothing'. In fact, science (well, physicists..) will be the first to explain there is no such thing as 'nothingness'. Something always exists. 'Nothingness' is actually a seething broth of energy.

Most people who state there is no God are talking about the classic Christian type 'creator' father/king figure of 'God'.

Once you start talking about vague ideas of God being 'energy' you get into areas hard to dispute, but also ideas not matching up with much of the common Christian beliefs.

Personally, I find it much more useful just to get rid of the 'God' idea since it clouds ones mind in many ways, but that of course is a personal observation and belief.

Answer 5

I wish I understood your question better.
Energy could be god? I guess.
Evolution doesn't mean we came from 'nothing" - evolution is merely change over time. You can see evolution sped up when we genetically breed cows or wheat for certain desirable traits. Traits which are desirable such as hardiness are bred for and those traits which are not adaptive are bred out.
Also evolution doesn't preclude us from believing in an omnipotent being. Evolution could be the overall plan the being (or the energy) has for the world.
It's good you are thinking - now open your mind and start reading.

Answer 6

It could, or for that matter, it could also not be God. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, as far as we know. Only transferred. That doesn't mean that the energy that exists now in the universe hasn't simply always been there. It doesn't necessitate that it must have a creator. By the same logic, one would have to question who created God.

Answer 7

Basics: Evolution has to do with how species change. It doesn't address the existance of GOD. There are muslims, christians, and atheists - all kinds that believe in evolution. So yes, they will have different answers about the "christian god" cause they believe in a lot of different things about god.

The first part of your question doesn't address evolution but the big bang. Some people who believe in evolution are big bangers and others are not.

Answer 8

yes, Energy could technically be "God". I have thought that for a while.

Before a time classified as a Planck time, 10-43 seconds, all of the four fundamental forces are presumed to have been unified into one force. All matter, energy, space and time are presumed to have exploded outward from the original singularity. Nothing is known of this period.

Answer 9

First. Go look up "understand" and "believe" in the dictionary, then tell me what's wrong with your argument.

Second. So God is energy? Wow... god is powering my computer.

THird. What did god come from? Why is it so much easier to believe God came from nothing than a universe came from nothing...

Answer 10

You are confusing two different topics. Evolution - the adaptation of life - and- abiogensis - the generation of life from non-living matter.
The term abiogensis is primarily used to refer to hypotheses about the chemical origin of life, such as from a primordial sea or in the vicinity of hydrothermal vents, and most probably through a number of intermediate steps, such as non-living but self-replicating molecules (biopoiesis). Abiogenesis remains a hypothesis, meaning it is the working assumption for scientists researching how life began.