Evolution or Creationism?

Question

Of course evolution is a proven fact.....share your questions about the bible that nobody seems to have an answer for.....here is the obvious.....2 people populated the whole earth? so we are all inbred?....lol

coming from monkeys is dumb? and being created from dirt or a rib is better?...lol

wow i appreciate all the answers lets see how many we can get great input

Answer 1

*giggles*

how about... a forgiving god who will send you to hell for eternity if you dont say that you believe in him and his son,.,,

Answer 2

Monica L –

There is no doubt that Creationist stupidity is easily made fun of. Exactly how many times does one thing need to be repeated before a conservative Christian can remember it (no one expects them to be smart enough to understand anything)? Creationists are the only people on earth who think anyone believes that humans evolved from monkeys.

They are so secure and certain in their stupidity, and so proud in their ignorance, that they cannot hear everyone else laughing at them. Since the scientific theory of evolution does not include any hypotheses that humans evolved from monkeys, Creationist claims that it does only shows how ignorant and uninformed they are.

It is, therefore, logically impossible for Creationists to know whether evolution is true or false because they do not even know what it is. But then, they also believe in imaginary beings and base their faith on the folk tales and mythology of historically obscure tribes of illiterate Semitic goat herders who lived thousands of years ago, thought the earth was flat with air above and water below, that the night sky was a dome with lights put there by their God; a God by the way, they had to call upon to tell them whether or not it was OK for them to keep having sex with their livestock. Now that really is funny - LOL.

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Schneb –

Repeating lame-brained pseudo-statistical voodoo based on non-parametric models generated from non-empirical population estimates of some hypothetical probability distributions is not only evidence that you do not know what you are talking about, but using this crap as some kind of mathematical proof of a cultural/religious belief system may be the single most intellectually dishonest thing I have ever seen.

In fact, it would have been more of a miracle if life had not emerged on earth. All the ingredients (which also happen to be the most common in the universe) and the water rich environment required to produce living organisms were present. The difference between ‘living’ and ‘non-living’ molecules is simply the result of bio-chemical reactions based on well-understood natural processes that occur with great regularity.

So, no matter what the odds were of life developing on earth, they were better than the odds of it not occurring.

Answer 3

I wish everyone would get their facts straight concerning evolution. Since I have been on this site, everyone assumes because this is a religious site, it automatically means evolution is saying we all come from monkeys. That is crap. Evolution means change over time in species (plants, animals). I have stated this before as an example- people who live in the high mountains have a larger nasal passage and larger lung capacity than people who live at lower levels. This is adaptive change over time. There is solid proof of evolution. There is no proof that we and apes came from a common ancestor. That is horse crap and if anyone studies the sciences, they know this. Creationism is a theory about how the universe and the planets came into being. Check some middle school science books. It is right there with the other theories.

Answer 4

by what mechanism does Evolution work?

Gradualism would take more time than the lifespan of the Universe...it was discarded by biology decades ago. The fossil record points rather to P E. That is what Dr Stephen J gould became famous for. His system of Punctuated Equilibrium shattered Gradualism.

And there isn't a demonstrable mechanism for Punctuated Equilibrium for the past 3 decades no one can expalin how large changes across many species can occur at the same time. With random mutations being 95 times out of 100 detrimental to the organism extinction would have happened before the factors could randomly help the species

Answer 5

Need to get a few things straight. It is a fact that all things living have evolved. The ToE is a scientific theory. Scientific theories are never proven, they are explanations based on observed facts and evidence of things we see around us. Proof is only obtainable in mathematics and alcohol of course.

Now that being said the ToE is the strongest, most robust theory we have that best explains the biodiversity on this planet. There are no other theories to even compete with it, because none have the amount of evidence the ToE has.

Man that schneb guy is a true idiot.

Answer 6

Sorry! Evolution is a "theory" not a proven fact. If it evolution existed there would be no apes, they'd all be humans by now or else we would have half/half still walking around. People like to confuse "adaptation" with "evolution" to reinforce their stance on evolution. There is no evidence that evolution is a fact. God created all creatures, all living things. The book of Job describes the dinosaur.

Adam and Eve were supremely perfect human beings. No defects. Adam lived to be over 800 years old and he and Eve had numerous children. i believe it was over 50 children in all. Cain was of the first generation so yes he would have married his sister separted by 100 years or more. Humans were absolutely perfect then, there were no physical defects/handicaps.

Yes we are all descendents of Adam or else we are not human. The law forbidding marriage to close relatives was not given until the time of Moses. That was some 400 years later.

lol...

Answer 7

I do have a different belief from you (and probably even many Creationists), so here's what I believe, add a little spice to the discussion.

1) With God, nothing is impossible, including one man and one woman populating an entire planet without having horrific deformities in their great-grand children caused by inbreeding.

2) Death and reproduction are required for evolution to operate.

With those two things in mind...
When God created the Earth, divided the light from the dark, divided the land and water, created plants, animals, and finally Adam and Eve, death wasn't a part of the equation. I suspect that reproduction wasn't, either. Therefore, evolution coudn't possibly operate.

But, once Adam and Eve ate the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge (the Forbidden Fruit), God told Eve that He would make her able to bear children. Death and reproduction entered the equation, and evolution could then begin to operate.

Since then, of course, there have been a number of new varieties of life (species) have developed, through both natural and artificial selection.

Answer 8

The truth is we are all inbred. We all have common ancestors going back in time. This can be traced through mitochondrial DNA and chromosomes.

DNA also indicates we did not come from monkeys. Monkeys are reasonable close relatives, compared with cats for example), but we are separate branches from a common ancestor.

Answer 9

For me, math has to be the deciding factor. Mathematical probability, as given by Hoyle, states that the chances of life to spontaneously evolve out of a primordial soup is one in 10 to the 40,000 power. Now scientists agree that anything beyond one in 10 to the 50th power is consider an impossibility. So imagine adding 39,950 more zeros onto those odds!

Can we use math in proving the existence of God? Actually, yes we can. God has provided the proof through prophecy. No other "holy book" can provide prophecy beside the Bible, and it is the Bible that declares a Creator God. Prophecy traces the origin of the Bible to being outside of our physical time domain. It reads in Isaiah 41:22-23,

"Let them bring forth and show us what will happen; let them show the former things, what they were, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare to us things to come. Show the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that you are gods; yes, do good or do evil, that we may be dismayed and see it together."

So, let's look at this mathematically. Dr. Peter Stoner (in an analysis that was carefully reviewed and pronounced to be sound by the American Scientific Affiliation) states that the probability of just eight prophecies being fulfilled in just one person is 1 in 10 to the 17th power. However, Jesus fulfilled 300 specific prophecies. A few of which I have documented here...
http://www.schneblin.com/studies/pdfs/in_the_volume_of_the_book.pdf

This is not even including the incredibly detailed prophecy regarding the regathering of Israel, the rise of Alexander the Great and later Ptolemy in the book of Daniel, and much, much more.

So, mathematically, the odds are in overwhelming favor of the Creator God written in the pages of the Bible rather than in the overwhelming odds against evolution.

Answer 10

Good stuff- don't let the creationists ever forget their beliefs are a bag of crap. Give them an intellectual pounding until they squeal and then pound them some more until they and their perverse ideology are finally rooted out of society. Evolution is of course a proven fact- only the mechanisms involved are classified as theoretical.

Answer 11

As a Christian I believe the story of Creationism. However, I see proof of evolution in the world around me.