Why do US Navy E7/CPO/Chiefs refer to themselves as "Warriors"?

Question

Marines are Warriors.
SEALs/UDT are Warriors
US Army Infantriy Soldiers and all the Special Ops are Warriors
So are many in the US Air Force.
Security Contractors, Civilians, CIA etc that serve in Iraq and Afghanistan are warriors..

Being onboard a Ship in the Safety of the PERSIAN Gulf reading a book and passing an exam and Oral board hardly qualifies one to be a "warrior", not even qualified to be a "weekend Warrior".

They are anything BUT a warrior. Unless you consider stuggling to make weight for the Navy PRT (which is moot because they will always "pass").

ScreaminggayPO2, I know more than you do.

Answer 1

To the guy above me you stated....
"Ships are often in harms way and the crews are warriors just as much as the marines. "

Ok I have nothing against the US Navy, but this statement needs to be reworded or something. Warriors just as much as the Marines? Sitting in a nice warm ship, sipping coffie, and staring at a radar screen qualifies someone to be just as much as a warrior as a US Marine on patrol in Iraq, who gets into daily firefights in Al-Anbar provence, and who sleeps on the ground, hasnt had a shower in a month, and hasnt smelled hot food in 2 months and who actually does fight an enemy who fights back???

You think someone in the US Navy that sits on a ship is just as much as a warrior as a US Marine?

So why dont you go trade places with a Marine.....since your both warriors?

The US Navy does a great job, and I respect them they are the best Navy in the world.

A guy sitting on ship isnt a warrior like a Marine, any rational person already knows that, the thought of what you just said is nuts really.

Big O, you couldnt trade places with a Marine because you:
1. Dont know how to shoot weapons most likely aside from target practice at a firing range once a year, maybe once a career

2. Most likley are so out of shape that your health is at risk

3. Have absolutely no training, none on how to fight on the ground

4. You didnt want to fight the enemy at all, thats why you joined the Navy so you could still serve, but were at less risk.

Does that sound like a warrior to you? What it sounds like to me is that your the one who couldnt do the Marines job.

Thats why a sailor gets less respect than a Marine sorry, you know it and I know it. Its a simple fact.

You took the safe route, just deal with it and move on.

Go back and keep playing with your tri-corder Mr. Spock.

Btw, you could train Marines to do anything on a US Navy ship, but thats not why they joined the US armed forces, they wanted to fight, not sit back nice and safe and get fat. From what I see of the US Navy thats what you guys do mostly, aside from sitting there all smug and tricking yourself into believing that your smarter than Marines because they fight and you dont.

Answer 2

I'd be curious as to where CPO's are referring to themselves as "warriors"...

Then again, as an AW1 (E-6) who then went to Ensign (OE-1) via the Aviation Operations LDO program... I knew several AWC's who were "warriors" !! Particularly those who were SAR Swimmers / Door-gunners.

Of course there are ALWAYS those who hit E-7 who become too wide to fit thru an escape trunk... or become political creatures who love their "collateral-duties" more than their true NEC. As PRT coordinator at two commands I FAILED 4 different CPO's... they went off to the "fat-farm" at Mirimar, and only 2 of them came out.

Your little rant is not a question, but a statement... and a generalization.

Oh I have the Purple Heart, Air Medal (9x +V), the Navy//Marine Medal, Combat Action Ribbon... I'm a warrior who likes to return to a rack, a shower, and a non-MRE meal each night... but a warrior just the same.

Answer 3

My dad lost two ships in WWII, the USS Vincennes CA-44
and a destroyer USS Cooper.

The Cooper was located off Ormoc Bay in the Philippines last year, a record dive to her shattered hull was conducted.

On both ships most of the crew perished in naval action that sank the ships, in the water, for a long time the CPO's held the men together, hour after hour, day after.... I never saw my father really get mad that often, but if anyone of his junior officers messed with "The Chief", he'd have their guts for mooring lines.................from young Ensign up to Captain
it is that long line of CPO's that keeps those big gray ships afloat whilst the junior officers learn what it takes to lead men
often to their fate.

A CPO is a living encyclopedia of naval tradition and skills that one does not learn at Annapolis or in ROTC. He may be a walking bastard but he will close a hatch to save his ship even if he is on the water side of the hatch.

Answer 4

What's the problem here. Many chiefs are in Iraq/Afghanistan now, and many more will go. Those guys have put in many years, doing many things, most of which they can't speak about. They may not have held off a squad of VC, or disarmed and IED in Baghdad, but that shouldn't matter. Are you saying that our carriers aren't warships, just because they are not actually IN Iraq?

Answer 5

You obviously know nothing about the US Navy. Ships are often in harms way and the crews are warriors just as much as the marines. You just never hear about the problems naval personnel have!

Answer 6

It only exit in a world where there are people who have lighter skin than them. It started with children wondering why their skin is darker than the white people's skin. Their theory? It's either because they eat a lot of chocolates or their mother ate a lot of chocolates before having them. So then they end up calling themselves chocolates. Eventually they distinguish themselves by dark chocolate, milk chocolate, and white chocolate. I think it's really cute. Vanilla and caramel comes in after they heard that blacks refer themselves as different types of chocolates.

Answer 7

YOU PATHETIC WANNA BE NAZI. Tell the parents and families of the 16 dead men and one dead woman, and tell the wounded who were on the USS Cole DDG-67 on October 12, 2000 in a SAFE PORT that the ship was SAFE.
You have once again reinforced my opinion that you're a pathetic loser and your family tree consists of nothing but brothers and sisters! You must ENJOY looking like a complete jacks a.s.s. in front of us.
(USN, retired/in-country Viet Nam vet/proud American Patriot)

Answer 8

Who cares how they refer to themselves? They serve as a part of our military, just as any other soldier. Everyone serves an equally important role.