Trying to understand - Jesus dying on the cross and in the garden of Gethsemane?

Question

My understanding is that Jesus took on the sins of the world in the garden of Gethsemane which caused him to bleed from every pore of his body. If this is so - why was it necessary for him to die on the cross? Any biblical reference is appreciated.

If he died for our sins on the cross - then what was his purpose in suffering in the garden?

Answer 1

He prayed so fervently that he sweated blood. He was fully human and fully God. He didn't "want" to suffer and die...he asked that if it was the Father's will to let "this cup pass" ...that was the suffering in the garden.

He knew that his suffering and death would be necessary...and so he did...because of divine love.

Answer 2

After Jesus Christ was posting 40 days, God Father, shows to His Son the future. When Jesus saw the facts on which He must to go on, His body and soul was surprise because the dirty sins of the humanity past,present and future, and for the ingratitude of men, and The Blood of Jesus explose throw His skin. Jesus Christ knows that this is the price of the sins of men and accept His Cross, for the goodness of menkind.
Jesus doesn't die in the garden of Gethsemane.

Answer 3

I don't know about bleeding from every pore in his body.

I think that the received scripture is likely something along the lines of "the honest pagan truth" after they had gotten hold of the original version and done Christianity the kindness of passing its scriptures onto the next generation of readers for it. Oligarchies tend to be the biggest offenders in terms of taking over other people's things. I also wouldn't be surprised if a fair percentage of the homosexual component of the community is coming from the oligarchies. These people worship the earth, rather than the Creator.

So I'm trying to piece it all together, working backwards. The place of Jesus' death would be important to somebody who's trying to convey the importance of the poetic justice - Shakespeare style. Considering how dismissive pagans are towards Christianity, any real Christians would be able to slip into the works undercover in their usual humble spiritual garb and offer a few suggestions about the spiritual issues at stake. All things considered, I don't think there's too much point paying attention to the details, because that's what criminals do, looking for a code. It's the metaphor that means something.

Here's a Biblical reference.
1 Peter 2:24
"He himself bore our sins" in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; "by his wounds you have been healed."

Answer 4

Your understanding needs correction. Jesus prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane, where because of his intense prayer he sweated blood. He died on the "cross" in Calvary, or Golgotha ( w/c meant hill of skulls).

According to Jesus himself: he came to give his life as a ransom for many. A ransom by the way is payment or covering for sins. The ancient Jews knew this because of their ritual--the offering of the blood on the altar.

But, why Jesus and not any othe humans? Because only he had the perfect life--the same life that Adam lost. No other humans after Adam had that kind of life ( other than Jesus himself)

Answer 5

The bleeding from every pore of His body was because of stress and mental anguish. He knew exactly what was going to happen to Him in the next 12 hours - all of the torture, the beatings, the crown of thorns, the carry the cross, the driving of nails into his hands and feet, everything. He was also dealing with the very real desire to avoid all of this, yet knowing that this is what He should do.

It was necessary for Jesus to die on the cross to show His complete obedience to the will of the Father. Adam and Eve's disobedience separated us from the Father. Jesus obedience, even unto death restored that relationship.

Answer 6

I don't think that Jesus' agonizing in the garden of Gethsemane had any purpose other than to demonstrate that Jesus was truly human. I myself would probably have blood on my sweat if I knew I was about to be beheaded by fanatical Muslims... using a dull pocketknife... at noon... live via internet! And that example was probably more merciful than what Jesus went through. Knowing a lot about your own torture and execution is almost as much agony as torture and execution itself. I'm pretty sure He hadn't experienced anything like that in heaven... as God,... or part of God.

Now He knows what's it like to be human. And now we have no excuse for not using the road He has paved for us, to bring us closer to God. He has paved the Way, by using the Truth, so that we may have Eternal Life. You may be able to find some other way to God but if you fail, you have no one to blame but yourself, for the Road has been revealed! The road was probably there before Him but so few took it that He had to descend from heaven to have it paved and lit!

Not to sound overly preachy, but Jesus took on the sins of world and absolved them, but that does not absolve you of the sins you are committing today, especially now that the way has been revealed. What way!? Read Jesus' commandments. You don't really need an interpreter to understand the Gospel. Really, what kind of Word would Jesus be if His message was so unintelligible that He needs further interpretation?

Answer 7

Your understanding is wrong. The suffering in the garden of Gethsemane was his anticipation of the suffering He knew He was about to face. We are told that Jesus was fully God and fully man. If you knew you were about to be arrested, tortured, and nailed to a cross, you'd be suffering, too. This was Jesus' final prayer to His father and His preparation. We know about it because it is our example in facing suffering and difficult times. He prayed, wept, and accepted the will of the Father. He also used that time to pray for people other than himself. But He didn't take on sin until He was on the cross.

Answer 8

In the Garden Jesus was coming to terms with his mission of taking on all the worlds sins. He did not take them on there. He was always aware of his mission. As the time drew close he was being very human. He was about to suffer the wrath of GOD and man. I personally believe in order for him to truly atone he would have to suffer more then anyone else ever has. Our body shuts off after a certain amount of pain and we pass out. Jesus didn't pass out.

Mat 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
Mat 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou [wilt].

Answer 9

He knew he would resurrect, so the suffering was not too bad.

Suffering in the Garden of Gethsemane was all part of the deal.

Then, after being dead three days, Jesus gets up and starts walking around like nothing ever happened; then he rises into the sky and becomes a god.

It's all very holy; and from what the church people tell me, he will descend to earth in precisely the same spot where he rose.

I believe they call this the Rupture.

Answer 10

No, in the garden Jesus was praying so hard that he started to bleed. Jesus asked God that if there was any other way for the sins of man to be forgiven to do it but said father let YOUR will be done. The only way our sins could be forgiven was for Jesus to be crucified. If he died for our sins there then God would not have allowed his only son to die that horrible death.

Answer 11

Jesus' sacrifical death was not 'to take on the sins of the world' but by offering his perfect human life he was able to provide a ransom to free mankind from enslavement to sin and death which mankind inherited from their first parents,Adam and Eve(also perfect humans).So those who exercise faith in Christ Jesus have the opportunity to have their sins forgiven and the hope of eternal life on a paradise earth.The Bible does not teach automatic salvation.(John3:16,17:3;
Romans5:12,18,6:23)
Jesus was under great emotional stress in the garden of Gethsemane and it was during this agonized praying that this unusual occurrence took place.Within hours Jesus was to die as though he was a despicable criminal.The agony of this anticipated experience and how it may bring reproach upon his Father was so intense that his sweat became as drops of blood.Immense responsibilty rested on Jesus' shoulders.