How much evidence exists which proves that the writings of the 'Church Fathers' were tampered with?

Question

I am looking for sources if possible.

Jim Justin, ditto to you.

Answer 1

well this shows how the new age bibles have been changed that many people use now a days.

http://www.av1611.org/biblecom.html

these explain how there are differences and how they have been "tampered with"
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/bibleorigin.php

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/bibleorg.php

Answer 2

I don't know of any, other than the fact that some of Ignatius' letters existed in a short summary distilled from the original version.

Why would anyone want to tamper with the writings of the Church Fathers, I wonder? What agenda could anyone hope to further? I do know that there are many patristic writings that were rejected in part (but retained nonetheless). Several local councils preserved by Nicea were actually Arian, the writings of St. Cyril of Jerusalem were all produced while he was an excommunicated heretic, several of the writings of Tertullian were produced after he abandoned the Church and joined the Montanists, the writings of Origen were preserved even after he was post-humously conndemned, the writings of pagan apologists were preserved in the Imperial library of Constantinople, many great saints of the early Church advocated heretical doctrines (many advocating Sabelianism, Adoptionism, Subordinationism, etc.)... With all of that preserved without issue, I don't know what anyone would have tried to alter.

The writings of Gregory of Nyssa advocate Gnostic dualism and universalism, Cyril of Alexandria wrote that Jesus only had one nature (condemned in subsequent councils), Maximos the Confessor argued in favor of the philoque heresy, Epiphanius and Eusebius argued against iconography, Eusebius of Caesarea was an excommunicated Arian when he wrote many of his greatest works...

All more examples of writings that would have been "corrected" if it could have served a purpose.

Answer 3

any edition of the writings of the particular Father will give the manuscript history of his texts. Speculations about tampering are usually pretty prominently discussed. The link below gives an example of an on-line edition with introduction; in each case the introduction gives a 'state of the question'.

The short answer is not much. Manuscript and text history indicates a fair bit of confusion sometimes, but not tampering. People will argue about Josephus in terms of tampering, but I'm not aware of a lot else.

Answer 4

Look at the bible. You don't need to look any further.

Over and over in the gospels Jesus tells us about an unconditionally loving God. A God would would never judge us no matter what we do.

These parables are always interpreted out of context and spun in ways that cover up there true meaning. Invariably they are crafted in such a way that they support the judgmental punishing God paradigm that the early roman church picked up from pagan sources.

The exact opposite of what Jesus attempted to show us.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 5

The BIBLE was confirmed thru the Dead Sea Scrolls that were found. You should begin a study of what they found there. If you are speaking of the Catholic Church then I haven't a clue as to how you would go about proving it to their members that they have been duped. Have a great day!
Thanks,
Eds

Answer 6

Who knows?
The evidence could have been tampered with.
The New Testament in the Bible reveals all the truth of all things.
All will come to know the truth, and the truth will set you free*,

Answer 7

considering all that happened was so long ago, what would you consider real proof.
I think you have already made up your mind and are looking for a way to justify it. I'll guess you are willing to believe anything that remotely supports the answer you are looking for.
Sorry, but it is that obvious. Your mind is already made up and closed to anything other than what you want to hear.