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Are we not all Spiritual Jews who believe?

2007-04-14 12:23:26 · 17 answers · asked by ? 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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One interpretation is that the two are Elijah and Moses.

Who are these men hinted at in Zechariah 4, clothed in sackcloth in Revelation 11, with power to bring about drought and scorch anyone who hassles them?
• Elijah called down fire from heaven that destroyed one hundred soldiers (2 Kings 1).
• Elijah prayed, and the heavens yielded no rain for three and a half years (Jas_5:17).
• Elijah never died, but instead rode to heaven in a fiery chariot (2Ki_2:11).
• The Old Testament ends promising Elijah's return (Mal_4:5).
Thus, I believe Elijah is one of the two witnesses, who, anointed with the oil of the Holy Ghost, will shine as brightly as candlesticks in the midst of the Tribulation.

While some have suggested Enoch or Zerubbabel as the second witness, others believe it is Moses.

At Moses' command, Egypt was plagued with darkness, frogs, and death; at his command, the water of the Nile turned to blood (Exodus 7-12).

Moses, representing the law, appeared with Elijah, representing the prophets, on the Mount of Transfiguration (Matthew 17).

Satan and Michael the archangel argue over the body of Moses (Jud_1:9)—very likely in order to prevent his resurrection as the second witness.


Most of what you will read about the end times are pre-millennial views: the view that Christ's return will usher in a future millennium of Messianic rule mentioned in the book of Revelation before the final judgment. The believers of this doctrine also hold to the notion of a Rapture of the righteous beforehand.

Others hold that there will be only one second coming of Christ, at the time of the Final Judgment.

Then there are mixtures involving the views of the seven year tribulation and whether it is happening now, occurs later, etc.

These doctrines all fall under the general heading known as the study of end times, or eschatology.

For explanations of the various eschatological beliefs see: http://www.religioustolerance.org/millenni.htm

I am a Amillennialist. I believe we are currently living in the Millennium and in the Tribulation period. Events described in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 and in most of the book of Revelation have already happened. To me the Antichrist is figurative and not a real person. I believe that the Kingdom of God is today present in the world through the presence of the heavenly reign of Christ, the Bible, the Holy Spirit and Christianity. Both good and evil continues in the world until the current Church Age ends suddenly when Christ returns to the sky above the earth. Then the Rapture immediately occurs. The Redeemed are transported to heaven where they will adopt spiritual bodies. The rest of humanity will be condemned at this time to eternal punishment. The world will be abandoned. History is no more.


See:
http://www.prca.org/articles/amillennialism.html

http://www.carm.org/doctrine/amil_premil.htm

http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/Eschatology/Amillennialism/

2007-04-14 12:34:22 · answer #1 · answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6 · 2 0

Moses and Elijah.#1 The miracles match up .#2 They represent the Law and the Prophets.#3 They were the two that met Jesus on the Mt. of Transfiguration.Although Enoch was a cool dude ,he isn't needed here.I think that's why in Jude he talks about Michael the Arcangel stopping Satan from stealing Moses' body.He might have known God was going to reanimate him for a time.If He can do it to Lazurus and the people at the end of Matthew,He can do it for Moses.

2016-05-20 00:50:53 · answer #2 · answered by lara 3 · 0 0

A greatly misunderstood prophecy, JB:

Some people think it is Elijah and Enoch, but Jesus told his followers that Elijah was John the Baptist--so that is wrong.

Because Revelation tells of things that must come, we can see that the Old and New testaments were God's witnesses, and they were killed by atheism for 3 1/2 years during the French Revolution. The carnage was so intense under atheism, that the National Council reconstituted Christianity in France with a 100% vote.

Why did France experiment with atheism? That question is answered when you break the mathematical code--it proves Jesus as the Messiah, among other things, at: www.revelado.org/revealed.htm

Blessings, OneWay

2007-04-14 12:35:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I think you mean this instead of 3:11.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

The "two sons of oil", that are" two flesh men", because they shed their blood in the streets of Jerusalem. Rev 11:8.

Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

2007-04-14 12:34:52 · answer #4 · answered by Theophilus 5 · 0 0

The two witnesses in Revelation 11:3 are two prophets raised up to prophesy to the Jews and to defend the city of Jerusalem from the armies of the Earth. I don't believe it will be Moses, Enoch, or Elijah because I don't believe they can be killed. It will be two mortal men.

2007-04-14 12:38:04 · answer #5 · answered by Ivan 3 · 0 0

The 2 witnesses in Rev. 11 are the reincarnation of the prophet Muhammad and his wife Aisha!

2014-02-03 09:29:37 · answer #6 · answered by Jim 7 · 0 1

PERHAPS...you mean Rev 11:3?

(Rev 11:3) And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

They are Enoch and Elijah!

Both were Translated and did not Die!

And YES all believers both Jew and Gentile are refered to by this verse......

(Galalians 6:16) And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Thanks, RR

2007-04-14 12:30:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Revelation 11:3.

Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Moses and Elijah.

2007-04-14 12:32:47 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I do not find the text mentioning 2 witnesses in the scripture you gave...please check.

Edit: “‘And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.’ These are symbolized by the two olive trees and the two lampstands and are standing before the Lord of the earth.”—Revelation 11:3, 4.

These refers to the faithful anointed Christians, who needed the quality of endurance, for they had to prophesy “in sackcloth.” They do not literally mean 2 persons. What did this mean? In Bible times sackcloth often symbolized mourning. Wearing it was a sign that the person had been brought low in sorrow or distress. (Genesis 37:34; Job 16:15, 16; Ezekiel 27:31) Sackcloth was associated with the mournful messages of doom or grief that God’s prophets had to proclaim. (Isaiah 3:8, 24-26; Jeremiah 48:37; 49:3) The wearing of sackcloth could indicate humility or repentance in view of divine warning. (Jonah 3:5) The sackcloth worn by the two witnesses appears to indicate their humble endurance in announcing Jehovah’s judgments. They were witnesses proclaiming his day of vengeance that would bring mourning also to the nations.—Deuteronomy 32:41-43.

John calls them “the two olive trees and the two lampstands,” saying that they “are standing before the Lord of the earth.” This is an evident reference to the prophecy of Zechariah, who saw a seven-branched lampstand and two olive trees. The olive trees were said to picture “the two anointed ones,” that is, Governor Zerubbabel and High Priest Joshua, “standing alongside the Lord of the whole earth.”—Zechariah 4:1-3, 14.

Zechariah lived in a time of rebuilding, and his vision of the two olive trees meant that Zerubbabel and Joshua would be blessed with Jehovah’s spirit in strengthening the people for the work. The vision of the lampstand reminded Zechariah not to ‘despise the day of small things’ because Jehovah’s purposes would be carried out—“‘not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,’ Jehovah of armies has said.” (Zechariah 4:6, 10; 8:9) The small band of Christians persistently carrying the light of truth to mankind during the first world war would similarly be used in a rebuilding work. They too would be a source of encouragement and, few as they were, would learn to rely on Jehovah’s strength, not despising the day of small beginnings.

2007-04-14 12:28:41 · answer #9 · answered by Tomoyo K 4 · 0 0

Moses and Elijah

Two witnesses have already been associated with each other in scripture, and they are even called by their names -- Moses and Elijah. There should be no confusion as to who is the partner of Elijah when it comes to being a witness -- Elijah and Moses have already appeared together as witnesses at the Mount of Transfiguration.

Enoch does not appear in physical form, to human eyes, as a witness to anything, anywhere else in the Bible after he is "taken".
It seems that Enoch's work was done.

Moses, however, HAS ALREADY manifested as a witness before human eyes -- it is appropriate that he would be chosen over Enoch to manifest again in the time spoken of in Revelation 11.

As for the "appointed once to die" argument:

Enoch was "taken" by God, but tradition holds that he was merely taken elsewhere and lived out his days and died, just as Moses died.

Moses, even though he died, appeared on the Mount of Transfiguration as
one of two witnesses to that event. There is already a Biblical precedence for the pairing up of Elijah and Moses as the two witnesses. The Transfiguration of Jesus is a foreshadowing of when we too will be transfigured when we are gathered together with Christ.


The transfiguration can be seen as a picture of the coming of the two witnesses—Moses and Elijah.

Malachi 4:5 predicts that Elijah will come as one of the two witnesses: “See I will send you the prophet Elijah before the great and dreadful day of the Lord comes.” Elijah was taken up into heaven by a whirlwind and chariot of fire (see 2 Kings 2:9-11); he did not physically die. Likewise, Moses, did not die a normal death. The Bible tells us that God preserved Moses' body (see Deuteronomy 34:5,6; Jude 9). The accounts of their deaths further corroborate the selection of Moses and Elijah as the two witnesses.

2007-04-14 12:28:52 · answer #10 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 1 0

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