Adam Eve and God Who's Really To Blame??

Question

Ok I have to amend a previous question and revert to my usual devil's advocate role. God tells them if they eat the fruit they die yet there it is late in the day their still alive. Hiding but alive so it's already been a few hours and God still has no clue what's going on. Could Adam and Eve have used their new found brains and mounted a defense since God obviously didn't play straight with them? Also include why would he put the tree in the first place?How culpable IS God for the fall? He easily could have left everything as perfect as it was.
is the snake really guilty of anything but telling Adam and Eve the truth that God didn't?

Vin

Answer 1

God lied to Adam and Eve
God put temptation in their way
And God knew they would give into temptation, and not call him on the lie.



Or maybe it's a fairytale

Answer 2

Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden were told by God, that they could have everything in the garden but the fruit from the forbidden tree, which was the tree of knowledge, the serpent tempted Eve to eat from the forbidden tree, so she did and then gave some fruit to Adam, God, being loving as He was, did not kill them, he banished them from the garden as punishment. Remember God also gave Adam & Eve brains to think for themselves and He was more then generous, giving them all that He had given them. When a child disobeys a parent, don't they get punished? What more truth about the tree did you want God to tell them?He already warned them, not to eat from the tree! It is not Gods fault they disobeyed!

Answer 3

approximately you: you're an agnostic atheist... you think of that the seen a god or greater effective being isn't provable, no longer unprovable, and not testable. for this reason its no longer technology, and neither is creationism. Christianity and the bible would be shown incorrect however... Your Q: "Why does god blame adam and eve? How can god anticipate Adam and Eve to verify on between him and devil while they did no longer understand what good and undesirable have been? How can god in all risk blame a individual for making a determination while pronounced individual become thoroughly unaware of what would take place? How would they understand which one become suitable?" My A: you get carry of to alter your place. you're too a ways to pay attention me; I have been given no selection yet to coach you approaches.

Answer 4

Some religions believe that separation from God is spiritual death. Since Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden they could no longer walk and talk with God. He put the tree there in the first place to teach them obedience. The serpent tempted Eve,and she took the bait. Adam ate it as well.

Answer 5

Die is symbolism. When they ate of the tree of good and evil, God knew just like he knows everything. God gave us free will and also told them not to eat of the tree. Them doing so is their fault.. The serpent was punished for tempting Eve in the first place. The serpent was the devil in disguise by the way. God wasn't actually as upset with their disobedience as He was at the fact that they tried to lie and hide from Him after they did it. Do you really expect anybody, much less God to just hook these people up in a perfect world and hand them EVERYTHING and not except anything in return? Like today, all He wanted was some obedience from His children. Is that so much to ask? That is why He is called our Father in Heaven.

Answer 6

Adam and Eve were created to live perfectly and eternally...no pain, sickness, old age even death. Because of sin, all those things mentioned were experienced by them. They did not immediately die physically but they are dead in God's eyes.

God knows what they did, he searched for them to let them come out and somehow admit what they did, however, Adam did not confess his sin and pointed a finger on EVe, Eve on the other hand blamed the serpent (which was actually used by Satan as a mouthpiece). When Satan (through the serpent) told Eve that they will not die and that they will know evil and good, he was implying that God is hiding something good from them....Satan attacked God's sovereignty, his right to rule over man. God has always been telling the truth. It was Satan who lied, he said they will not die, yes they didnt immediately die but they suffered, aged before they did.

Much conjecture has been put forward about this tree. Was it a real tree? What was the “knowledge” and the “good and bad”? Why would God put such a tree in the garden?

The Bible indicates that the tree was real, speaking of it as one among the fruit trees of the garden. (Genesis 2:9) What was the “knowledge” that the tree represented? The Catholic Jerusalem Bible makes a pertinent comment, in a footnote on Genesis 2:17:

“This knowledge is a privilege which God reserves to himself and which man, by sinning, is to lay hands on, [Genesis] 3:5, 22. Hence it does not mean omniscience, which fallen man does not possess; nor is it moral discrimination, for unfallen man already had it and God could not refuse it to a rational being. It is the power of deciding for himself what is good and what is evil and of acting accordingly, a claim to complete moral independence by which man refuses to recognise his status as a created being. The first sin was an attack on God’s sovereignty, a sin of pride.”

The tree was, in effect, symbolic of the boundary—the line of demarcation—or the limit of man’s proper domain. It was right and proper, yes, essential, that God inform Adam of that boundary. For a perfect man to eat of that tree would require the deliberate assent of his will. It would indicate the determination made beforehand that he would withdraw himself from subjection to God’s rulership, to go out on his own, doing what was “good” or “bad” according to his own decisions.

God left everything perfect. Adam and Eve has a choice to make, they were not forced to follow God like a robot when a button is pushed. I think we also find it satisfying when somebody loves us or a kid obeys us out of love and not by force.

Answer 7

Adam and Eve were created perfect and they were commanded to be fruitful and fill the earth and make the entire planet like the Garden of Eden. They were told that they would not die as long as they obeyed YHWH's one command... to avoid the fruit of one tree.

satan used the naivity of the newly created humans to mount an insurrection against YHWH

had satan failed in his power play to get Adam and Eve to sin, YHWH could have rightfully destroyed satan at that time

humans would be eternal and never have death and we would have filled the earth and expanded the garden to cover the entire planet as YHWH commanded the first couple to do

but since satan *was* successful in convincing humans that we didnt need God's Kingdom, that we could have our own kingdoms/governments and rule ourselves, YHWH had to give humans the time necessary to figure out that we can not rule ourselves and that human politics/governments are and will always be a failure and that the only answer to mankinds problems is YHWH's Kingdom of peace and love as demonstrated by His only-begotten Sons teachings and examples.

Answer 8

Supposedly Adam & Eve had free will, but, in theory Jehovah is omniscent, so he knew the outcome of the whole talking-snake/tree-of-knowledge thing long before he created Adam & Eve.

Seems rather contradictory to me. However, I'm sure there's a Ph.D. in Theology who can reconcile things using a lot of phrases like 'the ineffable oneness of the divine imperative' or something like that...

Answer 9

You may have to rewrite. God did know where Adam & Eve were. In fact he told them where they were. They did try to cover up so to speak. They hid in the bushes because they were naked, God asked them how they knew they were naked. The snake is completely culpable he beguiled (temptation above temptation) Eve. Adam saw the woman and said ok give me to eat. The master plan had a purpose just as some courses in college. You may not know the entire plan but God does. If we could go back and change things--would you believe then? Adam told God it wasn't his fault . "That woman which thou gaveth me she told me to eat." We have been blaming others since then. I would suggest you talk to God and ask him why, he might lighten your load.

Answer 10

The death they would surely suffer was spiritual. They fell from grace and were, for the first time, apart from God.

"it's already been a few hours and God still has no clue what's going on."
You're serious, aren't you? When Jesus returned and asked them "Where are you" (Genesis 3:9) do you really think the creator of all didn't know where they were?

"Where art thou?" is the cry of a heart-broken father. God knew that Adam and Eve were the victims of their choice and that they were now in bondage to death and darkness.

"mounted a defense" - that's a good one.

Answer 11

Okay, since there's no way to prove that ANY of this actually happened, any answer you get is going to involve the use of IMAGINATION, not factual inquiry.
I can give you some of the imaginary explanations according to at least some christian denominations.
1) You must understand that from the get-go, God knew that all of this would happen. However, he let it happen because man had to have free will, because God didn't want man to worship him just because he HAD to. And if man had free will, all the rest of this HAD to happen, because man would choose to do it- and God KNEW man would choose to do it, but he wouldn't MAKE man choose to do it.
2) When God said they would die, he didn't mean they'd drop dead instantly. He meant they wouldn't have eternal life.
3) For man to get eternal life back, Jesus would have to redeem him. As I said, God already knew this beforehand. Man had to choose to follow Jesus freely to be saved, hence, again, man had to have free will.
4) "Also include why would he put the tree in the first place?" Well, since man HAD to achieve knowledge somehow (remember, man has to have free will, and God knows man is going to lose his innocence and go for knowledge), there had to be some medium (the tree) through which he achieved it. The usual explanation that people who study mythology give is that the tree of knowledge is prominent in other pre-Hebrew religions, in most of which goddess worship is prominent, and that it was borrowed by the Hebrews and put to use in their male-dominated religion. Notice that it's Eve who gains knowledge first, and SHE brings Adam to knowledge. In the old religion, that would have been a good thing. In the Hebrew religion, it became Eve perverting Adam, instead of doing something good for him. Same with the serpent, a good thing in the old religion (bringing man knowledge, and ultimately, everlasting life), bad in the new. The snake itself was a symbol of everlasting life because of the way it sheds its skin- looks like rebirth.
5) "How culpable IS God for the fall?" God knew in advance everything that would happen- he's all-powerful, all-seeing, etc., etc. In my view, he's culpable. The people who disagree would say, even though God knew, man was given free will, so God's not culpable. The answer to that is how can it REALLY be free will when God knows in advance what the result will be. In short, this is one of those theological questions that some people just refuse to see reason on, and will never be resolved.
6) "He easily could have left everything as perfect as it was." No, because man had to have free will- he had to have a real choice. If man knew that everything he did was going to be just ignored by God, man would do whatever he wanted and there really wouldn't be any choice involved- and the correct choice, was, remember doing what God told you to do. (Is that actually a choice?) God was really hung up on that. He didn't want man to worship him because man was a kind of robot, but because man loved God (read that as "because God beat the crap out of man whenever man got out of line").
7) "...is the snake really guilty of anything but telling Adam and Eve the truth that God didn't?" Well, sure, he's guilty, the same way man is- he was free NOT to do what he did, even though God knew in advance what he'd do. But what he does really just fulfills God's plan, according to the story. That's the beauty of it, you can do what God wants and still God beats you up for it.