What is the logic of original sin?

Question

Open to all biblical religion followers. I never understand the logic in it. Why all knowing god let satan to convince eve to tempt the man to do sin? And after all why satan is ther in the story? God cannot distroy satan? If not how god can be almighty? Also how the original sin can come to their future generations? Please try to answer logically. Don't say , it is like that since it is there in the book. With great respect to all.

Answer 1

It is all childish!!!

There is no sin in us... what we percieve as sin is either imperfection, prejudice, or disease

Hinduism believes... we are all spark of the divine!!!

Answer 2

Free will.

God didnt want us to be mindless robots or drones. Satan was originally an angel who chose to stop serving God. He wanted Adam and Eve to follow him. Having free will meant that he had the freedom to tempt Eve and Eve had the freedom to listen to him. God could have destroyed Satan, and Adam and Eve but what would that have done?

It would have not answered the questions Satan raised by his actions:

Is God a liar? Is he keeping good things from us? Does he have the right to tell us what is good for us? Will humans only obey God as long as they feel they benefit?

God had to give time to prove Satan's challenge, we're in the middle of this issue today and we are the ones that are going to prove Satan right or wrong.

When Adam disobeyed God, he became an imperfect sinner. Sin is like an inherited disease, so therefore it spread to all future generations.

Answer 3

The first thing that someone should be considering is whether the idea of sin is actually real.

If God is supposed to be perfect how could She have made anything or anyone that wasn't perfect.
Think about it. The idea of sin assumes certain things about God that seem highly unlikely.

First it assumes a God who is too incompetent to organize a simple educational field excursion and figure out a way to get all of the students home safely.

How likely is this that God would not be smart enough to come up with a plan for our salvation that is going to work 100 percent of the time?

It also assumes that God must have created us imperfect if we are sinners.

One might assume that God would be able to create someone perfect each and every time if he chose to. Assuming God is capable of this, then it follows logically that we must be perfect creations if we are actually creations of this perfect God.

Unless of course you are saying that God chose to create us imperfect.

If God created us imperfect then anything that may go wrong is Gods fault, not ours. This seems a bit illogical at best so I think that we need to assume that What God creates would have to be perfect.

If this is the case and Gods creations are perfect, then nothing that we can do could change what God created perfect and make it imperfect unless we think that we are more powerful than God is.

How likely is it that we the creation could be more powerful than the creator. I personally find this idea somewhat amusing, and a bit absurd.

Religion tells us that God is perfect. If this is true then it could hardly be logically for Gods creations to be considered to be anything less than perfect.

If this is the case and we are perfect creations of a perfect God then Nothing that we can ever do could possibly change this perfection that God willed, unless we were so powerful that our choices could override and change the will of God.

How likely is that????

Think about it.

Love and blessings
don

Source --- Course in miracles

Answer 4

Let us assume that you have the ability to start and operate an orphanage for 30 years. You KNOW before you began this venture that 95 % of those you try to help will turn out to be misfits but that the other 5 % will become excellent citizens. Would you still operate the orphanage?

This is the closest that I have come to understanding original sin, free moral agent, the creation of the world, and even the creation of Lucifer (yes, God knew before He created Lucifer that he would become Satan, etc).

The above scenario is an analogy and falls down in many details (like all analogies) but it's the best that I can conceptualize.

Answer 5

Their is no logic in the said original sin because the said original sin is not biblical. There is no such as original sin in the bible.

Satan was not permitted by God to enduce Eve from commiting sin against God. That is why God also punished satan for enducing Eve.

That is the role of Satan in going against God. He want to be higher than God.

Satan was ;given the option to select where he will go either to the wrong path or to the right path but have slected the wrong path.

The original sin is for catholics only. Not biblical. Think of it. Can you inderit the sin of your father or your mother? no way. You have your own sin and your father or mother have their each own sin. You can not pass your sin to anybody else. This is not allowed by God.
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Answer 6

Mankind's relationship with God has, and will always be, based more on faith than logic. And that is simply because of the vast intellectual and conceptual differences between God and ourselves. If He explained it all to us, we simply couldn't comprehend it.

Although we don't have all the answers, those that believe trust that God has a plan, and has given us adequate information and guidance to stay a part of it. We would all like to have all the answers, but we don't. A relationship with God is a spiritual one and deals in spiritual truths.

I have great respect for logic, and study it myself. However, it is limited to empirical things, and incomplete as a tool for matters of faith.

Original sin was allowable because choice was necessary for mankind to have a relationship with God based on genuine love, which cannot be taken, only given. Satan, future generations, and so many other issues are now, and have been, under the eye of God and His plan. Some things won't make total sense to us until we get to the ending. Until then, we live by faith.

With great respect to you, also.

Answer 7

That's a great question. It's hard to get a very good understanding of what happened in the Garden of Eden from the Bible since it contains such a limited account. Fortunately there are other records of what happened. There isn't space to say much, but I'll give a couple of quotes and provide references for more.

Because of the Fall of Adam and Eve, all people live in a fallen condition, separated from God and subject to physical death. However, we are not condemned by what many call the "original sin." In other words, we are not accountable for Adam's transgression in the Garden of Eden. The Prophet Joseph Smith said, "We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression" (Articles of Faith 1:2).

Through the Atonement, the Savior paid the price for the transgression in the Garden of Eden (see Moses 6:53). He has given us the assurance of resurrection and the promise that, based on our faithfulness, we can return to dwell in the presence of our Heavenly Father forever.

By the way, Adam and Eve are in no way condemned for what they did. They are considered to be very faithful and what they did was an important part of Heavenly Father's plan for our growth and development.

Answer 8

The logic is simple: God designed a plan--that plan gave humanity a choice--we still have that ability to chose today-- The problem people have is: They want to redesign the plan--replace segment of the plan-disbelieve the plan. In other word do there own thing-which is part of the plan. We ar a computer adapted society. The "IF" "THEN" solution for computers will not work with God.
"I am a jealous God, Thou shalt have no other God before me".

Answer 9

well ill start by answering ur question. God granted them free will, and also, be4 they were created, he sent Satan to rule Hell. now heres where the whole thing is even better. book of Genesis is just a parable designed by the Hebrews to explain creation and God in a way the Babylonians would understand. basically that means it isnt true.

Answer 10

God decided to give humans free will. He is not a tyrannical dictator. he wants us to follow him but he is wise enough to know 1. that you can't force love and devotion.
2. he knows a persons true heart and mind- so even though it would be "forced" out of fear to act like they loved him, he knows it wouldn't be true love and devotion and respect.

He is a wise God and also a God of his word. When he cast out Lucifer due to deception - he gave him the earth to rule over. SO to speak. Which gave Lucifer the means to deceive, and free will gave Eve the means to commit the first sin.
Because she ate of the "tree of knowledge of good and evil" she then had Adam eat for that knowledge.
Once they knew- it was passed on to all generations. You can't know these things and it not be forever ingrained into your whole existence. Everything you do is based on all that you know. You can't go back in this case. Unless God would have erased their memory and done some mind programming and brain washing. He chose not to. He chose free will. He is not that kind of God.
I hope I answered everything.

Answer 11

God created man to be perfect and not judgemental. Satan showed the man could be correpted no just to a minor degree but to a major degree.

The sin was about both disobedence and assessing blame.

Adam: The WOMAN you made for me MADE ME DO IT

Eve: The Serpent BID me to do it.

God thought he created a perfect human and found he had weasles in his garden.

The saga ain't over yet.

God has faith in man's good nature.

Satan has faith that man is vile and totally corruptable.

The game plays out to the very end.

End of times.