If we condemn torture, does that mean we are morally superior to the Christian god?

Question

The Bible seems quite clear on the fact that torture, and eternal torture at that, is entirely justified (fires of hell, wailing and gnashing of teeth, all that jazz).

What happens if we decide that torture is morally unacceptable? Are we wrong for condemning it or is the Christian god wrong for carrying it out?

Answer 1

No, not morally superior - it means we are drifting away from the God of torture, backsliding into empathy for our fellow earthlings.

If we want to be good God worshipping people, we need to get back to our roots of torture, rape, murder, stoning, and, of course, burnt offerings.

We can never be completely like God because we cannot make torture last for eternity, but we can try to prolong the lives of those we torture, so as to be more God-like.

Let's see how many report me for abuse on this one!

Answer 2

As a Christian, enable me clarify some thing. There are 3 varieties of Christians. The Holyer-than-thou and the Sinner, and then the genuine Christians. The Holyer-than-thous look what you refer to. those adult men don't understand that Christianity is approximately Ive and attractiveness, and not approximately being greater advantageous that any one else. this is approximately improving your self, and then letting others see a greater advantageous you, and ask you approaches they might too. they think of this is approximately retaining your nostril up and 'understanding' you're greater effective with Jesus. The sinners are people who say they have self belief, yet stay a non-believers life style the place they only do even in the event that they desire, and then they repent and that they are all good. Nt genuine Christians the two. a real Christian knows that Christianity isn't a faith. merely a relationship with the writer. And it does not make you greater advantageous or worse than every person else. it is all. And those are the rarest varieties of Christians. I only understand a pair. and distinctly, multiple them are my age (14) and probable interior of a 5 twelve months selection. i do no longer look at you and say 'you're an atheist, so i'm greater advantageous than you.' I merely look and say ' I want you knew God like i understand him, and not how the media and the different Christians portray him.'

Answer 3

Actually, Jehovah God takes no delight in the wicked, and will not torture even the most wicked...

"... They built the high places of Ba′al that are in the valley of the son of Hin′nom, in order to make their sons and their daughters pass through [the fire] to Mo′lech, a thing that I did not command them, neither did it come up into my heart to do this DETESTABLE thing, for the purpose of making Judah sin.’" --Jeremiah 32:35

The Greek noun ba·sa·ni·stes′ (Mt 18:34) is rendered “jailers” in some translations (AT, Fn, NW; compare Mt 18:30) & “tormentors” or “torturers” in others. (AS, KJ, JB)

Torture was sometimes used in prisons to obtain information (compare Ac 22:24, 29, which shows that this was done, although ba·sa·ni′zo is not used here), so ba·sa·ni·stes′ came to be applied to jailers.

Regarding its use at Matthew 18:34, The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia observed: “Probably the imprisonment itself was regarded as ‘torment’ (as it doubtless was), and the ‘tormentors’ need mean nothing more than jailers.” (Edited by J. Orr, 1960, Vol. V, p. 2999)

Thus, the mentioning in Revelation 20:10 of ones who will be “tormented day and night forever and ever” evidently indicates that they will be in a condition of restraint. That a condition of restraint can be spoken of as “torment” is indicated by the parallel accounts at Matthew 8:29 and Luke 8:31

Revelation 20 verse 14 shows that “the lake of fire” (in which the torment occurs), actually means “the second death.”

"All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in She′ol, the place to which you are going." --Ecclesiastes 9:10

"The soul that is sinning--it itself will die." --Ezekiel 18:4

What Really Is Hell?
http://watchtower.org/e/20020715/article_02.htm

Answer 4

Was it wrong for your parents to punish you as a child when you did wrong? And when you left home and no longer in the control of your parents was it their fault if you did something wrong and wound up in prison? No, it is your responsibility for what happens to you for doing right, or wrong. God does not want to punish you. That is why He sent Jesus to die for your sins, so you wouldn't have to be "tortured eternally".

Answer 5

I think we have already decided that torture is morally wrong. You have given me something to ponder about and essentially another reason to support my decision to leave christianity.

Answer 6

God is not wrong, you are. How stupid the little ant looks to God staring up at Him and spewing out "I am better than you", "I am more moral than You". Do you realize how dumb that looks to God. You go to hell because you chose to go to Hell. If you are an atheist you don't believe in it anyway, so how can you be more moral than something you don't believe in. God is the judge of the world. Do you know that pagans used to put their children into the arms of their idols and burn them alive. Too bad if God punished the parents.

Answer 7

We have to have justice. Without it the world would be in caos. If those who break the laws of God go unpunished, then there is no justice. There is no eternal torture, but there is eternal justice.

Answer 8

It doesn't take much to be morally superior to the Christian god.

Answer 9

One cannot apply moral laws to a Supreme Being. Your question doesn't even make sense.

Answer 10

That is an impressive angle Icarus! Hmmm.