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If both have levels themselves, is it possible that there are levels from one to the other?

2007-04-13 08:37:01 · 13 answers · asked by Eleventy 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Yes. "The Apocryphon of John (The Secret Book of John - The Secret Revelation of John)"

Description of the Heavens
"The Monad is a monarchy with nothing above it. It is he who exists as God and Father of everything, the invisible One who is above everything, who exists as incorruption, which is in the pure light into which no eye can look.

His aeon is indestructible, at rest and existing in silence, reposing (and) being prior to everything. For he is the head of all the aeons, and it is he who gives them strength in his goodness.

"For from the light, which is the Christ, and the indestructibility, through the gift of the Spirit the four lights (appeared) from the divine Autogenes. He expected that they might attend him. And the three (are) will, thought, and life. And the four powers (are) understanding, grace, perception, and prudence. And grace belongs to the light-aeon Armozel, which is the first angel. And there are three other aeons with this aeon: grace, truth, and form. And the second light (is) Oriel, who has been placed over the second aeon. And there are three other aeons with him: conception, perception, and memory. And the third light is Daveithai, who has been placed over the third aeon. And there are three other aeons with him: understanding, love, and idea. And the fourth aeon was placed over the fourth light Eleleth. And there are three other aeons with him: perfection, peace, and wisdom. These are the four lights which attend the divine Autogenes, (and) these are the twelve aeons which attend the son of the mighty one, the Autogenes, the Christ, through the will and the gift of the invisible Spirit. And the twelve aeons belong to the son of the Autogenes. And all things were established by the will of the holy Spirit through the Autogenes.

Creation of evil
"And the Sophia of the Epinoia, being an aeon, conceived a thought from herself and the conception of the invisible Spirit and foreknowledge. She wanted to bring forth a likeness out of herself without the consent of the Spirit, - he had not approved - and without her consort, and without his consideration. And though the person of her maleness had not approved, and she had not found her agreement, and she had thought without the consent of the Spirit and the knowledge of her agreement, (yet) she brought forth. And because of the invincible power which is in her, her thought did not remain idle, and something came out of her which was imperfect and different from her appearance, because she had created it without her consort. And it was dissimilar to the likeness of its mother, for it has another form.

Description of Hell
"This is the first archon who took a great power from his mother. And he removed himself from her and moved away from the places in which he was born. He became strong and created for himself other aeons with a flame of luminous fire which (still) exists now. And he joined with his arrogance which is in him and begot authorities for himself. The name of the first one is Athoth, whom the generations call the reaper. The second one is Harmas, who is the eye of envy. The third one is Kalila-Oumbri. The fourth one is Yabel. The fifth one is Adonaiou, who is called Sabaoth. The sixth one is Cain, whom the generations of men call the sun. The seventh is Abel. The eighth is Abrisene. The ninth is Yobel. The tenth is Armoupieel. The eleventh is Melceir-Adonein. The twelfth is Belias, it is he who is over the depth of Hades. And he placed seven kings - each corresponding to the firmaments of heaven - over the seven heavens, and five over the depth of the abyss, that they may reign. And he shared his fire with them, but he did not send forth from the power of the light which he had taken from his mother, for he is ignorant darkness.

When Hell failed to meet Heaven
"And when the light had mixed with the darkness, it caused the darkness to shine. And when the darkness had mixed with the light, it darkened the light and it became neither light nor dark, but it became dim.
"And a voice came forth from the exalted aeon-heaven: 'The Man exists and the son of Man.' And the chief archon, Yaltabaoth, heard (it) and thought that the voice had come from his mother. And he did not know from where it came. And he taught them, the holy and perfect Mother-Father, the complete foreknowledge, the image of the invisible one who is the Father of the all (and) through whom everything came into being, the first Man. For he revealed his likeness in a human form.

"And the whole aeon of the chief archon trembled, and the foundations of the abyss shook. And of the waters which are above matter, the underside was illuminated by the appearance of his image which had been revealed. And when all the authorities and the chief archon looked, they saw the whole region of the underside which was illuminated. And through the light they saw the form of the image in the water.

2007-04-13 08:58:19 · answer #1 · answered by Lifted by God's grace 6 · 1 0

"The Divine Comedy" (Hell, Purgatory, & Heaven) by Dante Allegro (Italian poetry) wrote about such levels. This masterpiece was the first publications writen in Italian vs Latin which made it accessable to the common ppl.

It is said that Dante wrote this more about a "Woman" than actual academic thoughts about Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven ... however, the ppl loved it so much that it is the basis of much of the mythology written about these places vs biblical understanding.

2007-04-13 08:47:50 · answer #2 · answered by Giggly Giraffe 7 · 0 0

Those people would probably get a second chance to accept God. I personally don't believe in Hell anyway. Hell really means the grave. That's where we go until we are judged. The ones who don't accept God at the time of judgement get thrown into the lake of fire of which really means the second death, never to live again.

2016-05-19 17:35:56 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

I heard a couple testimonies that make it seem that there are sublevels to hell nothing about heaven other than theres 3? 2 of the 3 seem to be dimensional not physical.

2007-04-13 08:45:05 · answer #4 · answered by alphaomegadisciple 3 · 0 0

Great question!

In Revelation it declares two columns of books, one for those who are judged (according to your system {common sense}; and one book called the Book of Life...but only one volume; of those who go into heaven;

This is assumed by Dante's inferno, where there are different levels in Hell, but not in heaven.

Other religions, I don't know.

2007-04-13 08:42:45 · answer #5 · answered by Thomas Paine 5 · 1 0

It could be possible. I guess it depends on religion and beliefs. The Hindu for example have various levels called "caste" ... I also read somewhere about a purgatory.

2007-04-13 08:45:46 · answer #6 · answered by Bluemiki 1 · 0 0

Yes, they are called Earth and Venus! And what differences there is between them! Like God was trying to show us for all time, the differences between Heaven(earth) and Hell(Venus)!!!

2007-04-13 09:08:36 · answer #7 · answered by Old Truth Traveler 3 · 0 0

I don't know. I don't think so. Either someone is good in the heart or bad. Let God be the judge of that.

2007-04-13 08:43:17 · answer #8 · answered by Megan 2 · 1 0

That's making quite a few assumptions. You can't come to a conclusion on a question when the question itself makes assumptions.

2007-04-13 08:42:00 · answer #9 · answered by Christian #3412 5 · 1 1

It's incredible that there are Gnostics around these days!! Will they never learn!!!

2007-04-13 11:22:58 · answer #10 · answered by Plato 5 · 0 0

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