Are creationists really as ignorant as they appear to be?

Question

I beleive creationists and intelligent designers (creationism veiled in a shiny new outfit) are some of the most ignorant people on the earth. They beleive that the earth was "created" about 6000 years ago - which happens to be about 1000 years after the sumerians invented glue. They beleive that either there were no dinosaurs - or that they were aboard "noah's ark" with the other animals. Sure - There were a couple of T-Rex's in the pen right next to the cows. Come on - are you people that stupid - or are you now starting to bend in the wake of enormous evidence supporting the truth. That the earth is billions of years old, that humankind is an ever evolving species that came from apes, that came from..... If you don't beleive in science - don't benefit from it. Throw away your computer, your appliances, your cars, etc. and just go away to an agrarian society and live off the land.

Answer 1

The Bible is a very interesting collection of literature and not wholly without value, even "morally" within certain bounds, but the fact that some people claim to take it "literally" as a point of religion (which is actually impossible, because the Bible, like much holy writ, is irrational and self-contradictory throughout), only proves that those people have no grasp whatever either of intellectual OR of spiritual Truth.

Just because spiritual experience is "trans-rational," that doesn't mean that part and parcel of spirituality is forcing oneself to accept notorious lies as facts. "In God all things are one," but it doesn't follow that a spiritually enlightened person wears hats on his feet or "combs his hair with a wagon wheel." It's not necessary to make oneself an imbecile to please God. As such, "fundamentalism" and "literalism" are always wrong, always insisting on the inessential aspects of religion while ignoring the essentials.

It's certainly true that if "Christian" "fundamentalists" were interested in avoiding the charge of hypocrisy leveled at them from more wholesome minds, they'd avoid making use of new technologies, the existence of which is owed exclusively to pioneers who advanced scientific ideas that the fundies condemned as contrary to the literalist interpretation of the Christian religion.

But as long as there are people walking around outside lunatic asylums who can actually make such claims as "Creationism is much more logical than the evolution theory and it leaves nothing unanswered" with straight faces, it's absolutely useless to argue. All we can do is make sure that such idiocies are kept within the bounds of the cults that promulgate them, and out of our public school systems. If "Christians" want to home school their kids in abject ignorance, or have their brains laundered at Christian academies, more power to 'em. The rest of us know how many Bob Jones graduates it takes to screw in a light bulb.

Answer 2

Some creationist may be but I do not think most are.

I am a creationist and I do not believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old. I believe that there were dinosaurs and they could not have fit on Noah's ark. I believe in science but I do not think evolution is an adequate explanation for the development of life. I simply have not seen enough evidence to convince me that evolution can account for the great variation of life we see on Earth.

Answer 3

We are ignorant because we believe in God and creation. That is a REAL broad statement and basically shows your ignorance toward the evidence of a young earth (see source below).

Some question whether or not Noah’s ark was large enough to hold all the animals, including the dinosaurs, that it had to carry. There are a number of parameters to be considered in responding to this question. First, since God Himself designed and created the animal kingdom, it is safe to conclude that He was similarly able to design a boat large enough to carry a portion of those animals to safety. To state otherwise is to impugn the nature and integrity of God. Second, the ark was approximately 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high, with slightly more than 100,000 square feet of cargo space. Noah was instructed to take into the boat land-dwelling, air-breathing animals. Today the number of species of animals that fit that description is about 20,000. Assuming that another 20,000 species have become extinct since that time, Noah would have to fit approximately 80,000 animals into the ark. The average size of those animals has been calculated to be that of a sheep (see Gish, 1990, p. 75). Thus, about 50,000 square feet of space on the boat would be filled, leaving another 50,000 available for foodstuffs, living quarters, etc. [NOTE: Noah was not commanded to take two, or seven, of every species into the ark, but every kind, which would shrink considerably the numbers of animals onboard the ark. A biblical “kind” is not necessarily the same as the biologists’ “species,” but can (and generally does) have a much broader classification.]

Third, it may be that God allowed Noah some latitude in regard to the animals that were taken onboard. For example, perhaps it was not necessary for Noah to take adult animals; rather, immature animals may have been stowed. This would save space, and prevent potential reproductive problems. Fourth, it is possible that God may have placed some, or all, of the animals into hibernation, thus making them easier to care for. The point is that the Flood was initated and controlled by God from beginning to end. It involved both God’s providential and miraculous intervention. Neither should be diminished in importance in the historical account of Genesis 6-8.

Creationism is much more logical than the evolution theory and it leaves nothing unanswered.

Answer 4

You could be more diplomatic in your criticisms my friend. I guess I could ask a similar question of evolutionists. Is the perfection of the earth's position to the sun, the natural order of plants and animals, the incredible, intricate machine we call the human body, the moon, the stars (shall I go on?) etc, to be considered to have come about from some monstrous cosmic fluke? It's like asking me to go to my local junkyard, plop a chair down and wait. 3 billion years later, out comes a Boeing 747 from that heap of junk. What you're asking me to believe is equally as absurd as you think my belief in intelligent design is. Just because something calls itself "science" does not mean that it is immune to factual inaccuracy.Some of the greatest scientists in the the history of humankind have been intelligent enough to realize that there is ample evidence for intelligent design. Be non judgemental towards creationists for not being able to explain certain things because you, yourself, would be hard pressed to explain some of the alleged "truths" of evolution too. By the way, some tips on future comments you make, you will get much more respect and better answers if you drop the name calling. Take care!

Answer 5

I'm not ignorant bc I interpret evidence differently. The fact is, none us of were there when those events happened. We all have to use assumptions about the past to determine how things happened and when. I assume that God doesn't lie and knows how to communicate clearly, being all-knowing and everything. An atheist assumes there is no God. Bc I believe God knows how to communicate, I believe Him when He says He caused a Flood that covered the whole Earth, thus drastically altering the topography and killing many animals, including dinosaurs. There are actually cave paintings of what appear to be brontosaurs indicating that we lived alongside them. Some also think that the dragon legends are embellished accounts of dinosaurs.

Like I said, when dealing with the past, you must make assumptions bc you weren't there. I assume that God is right, you assume that the rates of decay for radioisotopes have been constant, even though we can increase them by hundreds of times in the lab.

Answer 6

ok most of what you described and attributed to us is not fact. and is not believed by Creationists. we doo beleive dinosaurs exsisted and do not think those big honing dinos were on the ark. most drowned and then were burried under all the dirt that was moved around when water covered the earth. i agree the earth is older than 6 thousand years old. but you are wrong in your beleif that the earth is billions of years old.Evolution is still a theory and has not been able to be proven and is even more rediculous than any thing you have said about us.we did not come from apes.Science is all well and good but has prooven fallable. just because we know we did not come from monkys and know that theory is bunk does not mean that we do not trust real science. and dont worry we are not going anywhere. We like it here and alot of the stuff you enjoy was invented by us. ow go play with your little toys and let the adults talk.

Answer 7

What I find ignorant is your blind hatred towards those who don't think like you do. You demand that Creationistst turn their thinking around to follow what you believe, and yet you are unwilling to not only give their beliefs any credit or allow them their peace. You are also very ignorant to assume that only Christians believe in Creationism. For someone who claims to be so smart, you have overlooked the creationism of several pagan religions. My own brother is a pagan and believes in Creationism, though not the Christian kind. Both he and I are very well-educated.

Your question was nothing more then a blanketed statement of hate, geared towards boasting your own self-esteem by having others who think and follow your beliefs pat you on the back.

Answer 8

I think you've gone a little off the deep end here. Sorry, but it's one thing to have a belief and while you are certainly entitled to yours, the doesn't give you the right to go off on a tirade about someone else's. This is an age-old arguement and you're not going to be the one to settle the score, so just let it go.

Answer 9

I will say "yes" and "no" as someone who used to be a young-earth creationist. It has less to do with stupidity and more to do with (1) the belief that they are being faithful to the Bible by maintaining such things, and (2) exposure only to young-earth creationist literature. I was fortunate enough to read works by scientists who had the patience to explain what was wrong with young-earth creationist arguments, and so take heart - there is indeed hope, people can have their minds changed by the overwhelming evidence, if one can only get them to educate themselves, both about the Bible and about science.

Answer 10

There is no time period in the Qu'ran for the origins of the Earth but I don't know about Christianity and Judaism.