I am a Seventh Day Adventist. In my religion classes, it seems we spend most of our time studying other religions...Why do so many people insist on worshiping on Sundays? NO WHERE in the bible does it say that we should worship on Sundays. Constantine said, " wait a minute, I think I'll change the day of worship to Sunday", and everyone followed. Why do so many people base their religion on tradition? I have no offense toward catholics or anything, I actually like some of their morals and values than ours...I observed mass in LA a few weeks ago and I noticed that they accept everyone into the church, no matter who they are, like homeless people. I admire that. But the things I dont agree with is that they build their religion upon tradition, like purgatory. NO WHERE in the bible does it say their is purgatory. LIke a bishop would tie their hat to the roof of the church and would stay in purgatory when they die until the string breaks. Thats just stupid. I don't understand it.
2007-04-11
19:07:30
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I have been reading your post....I will start on what the majority of you have been saying about Ellen White. We dont follow her. We follow the Bible. Even she says "Don't rely on my teachings, follow the bible." She just gives advice. I agree with you that she is crazy, I dont agree with half of the things she says.
2nd of all, why do you base worship on the reserection of Jesus and not because God created us? The bible clearly says that God created on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th....and the 7th he made it Holy. Now I don't know about you but I count my days as follows: Sund. 1 Mon 2 Tue 3 Wed 4 Thur 5 Fri 6 SATURDAY 7th
.....2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done. Gen 2: 2,3
2007-04-11
19:46:13 ·
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Abel, none of the verses you provided says God says to worship on Sunday. Someone give me a text in the bible where god or jesus says to or does worship on sunday. Don't give me verses where disciples "break break" on Sunday. After Jesus went back to heaven, the disciples made their own tradition. Unless it is Jesus who did 'break bread' on Sunday, than its not reliable. Ex 20: 8-11 8 "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. All your reasons to worship on Sunday are after Jesus died. Its all on the disciples tradtion, not Jesus'
2007-04-11
20:26:14 ·
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and thank you yassup for helping me get my point through
2007-04-11
21:01:13 ·
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does it really matter what day you worship on. for peat's sake pick a day God will accept your worship.
2007-04-11 19:11:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Sunday worship is mentioned in the bible several times, the Christians gather on the first day of the week because Jesus rose from the dead on the day after the Sabbath.
Purgatory and prayer for the dead are biblical.
The Jews pray for their dead.
Jesus mentions purgatory as the prison where you will not get out until you have payed to the last coin.
Paul mentions it, some will be saved as through fire.Besides Catholics believe that Jesus did and taught many things that are not in the bible, John says so in the end of his gospel. John21:25, this is the Holy Tradition from the apostles.
St Paul says hold to the traditions we gave you wheter in written or oral form.
That cardinal had their hat tied to the ceiling of the place where they are interred, was just a custom, and the thing that they will get out of purgatory when it falls down is just folklore.
2007-04-11 19:16:32
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answered by carl 4
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Well, for one thing, we're not SDA's. Neither do we follow Mosaic Law, and neither do we follow the false teachings of Ellen G. White, as you do.
Secondly, Christ was crucified on the first day, which is "Friday". He arose from the dead on the third day, which was "Sunday". So the celebrated Christian sabbath was put on Sunday.
I realize that the SDA's think anyone who worships on Sunday has the "Mark of the Beast", which is a gross misinterpretation of Biblical scripture.
The Christian sabbath is Sunday. And if you choose to follow some distorted version of Mosaic Law, then you will be judged under the law, not under the New Covenant.
I also don't believe in purgatory, but Catholics do, and that is their perogative. I'm not going to dispute such a thing.
Perhaps you should read up on Ellen G. White. SDA's put her writings on par with scripture, which is absurd. To me, that is just plain "stupid."
2007-04-11 19:18:23
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answered by C J 6
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Never underestimate the power of tradition. Christian have worshiped on Sundays for so long that most don't even know it is not a Bible teaching. The same for purgatory.
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2007-04-11 19:17:47
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answered by Twoeyes 4
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There are no passages in the bible that refer to Sunday being the world wide day of worship, however, I believe that God honors anyday that we designate for worshipping him. We focus too much on the things that don't matter and not enough on the things that build up the kingdom.
If your church gathers to acknowledge God on a Saturday, then join them in worship on that day. If they choose Sunday as the day for worship, join them on that day. These issues, just as the issue of how to baptise, are not kingdom building issues, they are spiritual growth stunters and we should find other things to focus on and encourage ours and others spiritual growth.
My opinion only!
2007-04-12 03:49:25
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answered by Denise 1
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A study of the reason God accepted Abel's sacrifice and rejected Cain's sacrifice helps us to understand why it does makes a difference which day one keeps as the sabbath.
edit: The other amazing thing is when some say they are now under the new covenant. It's as if they have never read the new covenant. In the new covenant God says He will "WRITE HIS LAWS" in our hearts.
2007-04-11 19:16:59
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answered by Mr. E 7
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I do because the Word of God says that we should not forsake to assemble ourselves together with fellow believers. So since my fellow believers worship on Sunday, so do I. Also it was that God created the world in 6 days and on the 7th day He rested. What matters is that you worship, and in conforming with the Word of God, together. May God Bless U.
2007-04-11 19:16:22
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answered by Anonymous
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What I want to know is, why do stores close one hour earlier on Sundays? All day I can understand, staying open for the same time I can understand, but "In recognizance of this day of rest, we're closing an hour earlier, so that you can show up after we close and not buy anything. Oh, we're capitalists, to be sure, just not very smart ones."?
2007-04-11 20:20:54
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answered by Doc Occam 7
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because God doesnt ask us to worship him only on the weekend...he says to worship him every moment of every day that we are alive. the once a week crowd are just being lazy and selfish...sin all week and repent on Sunday. What happens if you die before Sunday rolls around?
2007-04-11 19:55:45
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answered by coolred38 5
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Well, my belief is the same. I have a Catholic friend that I've asked about purgatory and she said that it's a thing of the past and no longer is believed at least in today's modern Catholics'.
The Bible says something about this in Psalms 89:34:
"No, I will not break my covenant; I will not take back one word of what I said."
If any change in God's law was to be made, it certainly was not Christ's plan to do so, for He said, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. . Whosoever shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:17-19).
Christ did not change any part of God's law. On the contrary, He died because it could not be changed! So we can only conclude that if any change came in the day of worship, it was not by consent or knowledge of God.
Concerning the meeting taken place in Acts 20: 7,8: This meeting took place during the evening, or dark part, of the first day of the week. In Genesis 1:5 I find that the evening, or dark part, of the day in Bible reckoning comes before the light part. Hence, this was a Saturday night meeting. The New English Bible translates Acts 20:7 thus: "On the Saturday night, in our assembly for the breaking of bread, Paul, who was to leave next day, addressed them, and went on speaking until midnight.":
In 1 Corinthians 16:1,2, it says "Now here are the directions about the money you are collecting to send to the Christians in Jerusalem; (and, by the way, these are the same directions I gave to the churches in Galatia). On every Lord's Day each of you should put aside something from what you have earned during the week, and use it for this offering. The amount depends on how much the Lord has helped you earn. Don't wait until I get there and then try to collect it all at once."
There is nothing in this text to indicate that a church service was held on the first day. In fact, it was a day to figure up their weekly income and decide what they could save for the believers in Jerusalem, which Paul would receive when he came through Corinth.
Spokepeople from various churches have made statements about the Sabbath. A spokesperson from the Catholic Church says that "You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday" (The Faith of Our Father, p. 89).
The Episcopalian spokeperson has said: "The Bible commandment says on the seventh day thou shalt rest. That is Saturday. Nowhere in the Bible is it laid down that worship should be done on Sunday" (Toronto Daily Star, Oct. 26, 1949.
The Lutheran Church spokesperson has declared: "The observance of the Lord's day (Sunday) is founded not on any command by God, but on the authority of the church" ("Augsburg Confession of Faith," quoted in Cox's Sabbath Manual, p. 287).
Other Churches have acknowledged the change and have declared: "The notion of a formal substitution by apostolic authority of the Lord's Day (Sunday) for the Jewish Sabbath . . . has no basis whatever, neither in Holy Scripture or in Christian antiquity" (Dictionary of Christian Antiquities, vol. 2., p. 182).
History records the change:
"Not long after the recognition of Christianity by Constantine, the observance of Sunday was required by law. In A.D. 321 all courts of justice, all city dwellers and artisans were required to rest 'on the venerable day of the sun.' " (Encyclopedia Americana ) (1969), Vol XXVI
When Constantine's famous Sunday law was promulgated, he did not call Sunday the Lord's Day, but the "venerable day of the sun." He was enforcing not a Christian institution but a pagan custom. By forcing the heathen festival of Sunday upon Christians, he hoped to bring about a fusion of paganism and Christianity, thus uniting his kingdom. But what began as a pagan ordinance ended as a Christian regulation, and a long series of imperial decrees during the fourth, fifth, and sixth centuries enjoined with increasing stringency abstinence from labor on Sunday.
The church at Rome accepted many teachings that were not found in the Bible. It had put its seal of approval on the change of the day of worship and commanded everyone to keep Sunday as the holy day instead of Saturday. The following quotation is from the Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50:
"Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
"A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Q. Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."
The Church of Rome claims to have changed God's Law.
"Q. Have you any other way of proving that the church has power to institute festivals of precept?
"A Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her - she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no scriptural authority" (A Doctrinal Catechism. P. 174).
Sorry this was so long, but this kind of question always touches my heart and I feel the need to give a thorough answer. You probably already know all of this, but I thought the readers of this question might be interested in this.
By the way, to the poster who mentioned that SDA's put Ellen White's writiing's before the Bible you only have part of that right. There is a small minority that does put her writings above the Bible, but only a minority. You are talking about a small 10% of Adventists and only 10%. It's really not a good idea to generalize, okay.
2007-04-11 20:43:46
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answered by angelcat 6
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NT Christians went to Synagogue on Saturday(the Sabbath) and assembled themselves together on Sunday(the Lord's Day).
I Cr 13;8a
2007-04-11 19:12:29
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answered by ? 7
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