If every single believer committed suicide, would your god still be perfect?

Question

According to theists, god created humans specifically so he could exist within humans / amongst humans / love humans, be worshiped by humans, whatever

But without humans, he can't do these things. So you believers have it within your power to foil his plans by ending his little experiment.

I call on all believers to test my theory, perhaps even prove me wrong!

As an (evil) atheist, I will sit by and record the data.

Answer 1

You are using poor logic.
If a very nice mother and father had 5 kids and every single one of them turned out to be mean , would that make the mother and father mean? No they are still nice.
If every single believer committed suicide that would not change the characteristics of God. He would still be perfect.
Actions of others do not change other people's characteristics. Only one's own behavior changes their own characteristics.

Answer 2

I think that a lot of people would believe in God right now if He personally appeared to them. If God appeared to anyone, in any form, it would be enough to convince them it was really Him! But then we wouldn't have a choice; no opportunity to grasp love's concepts. God does not want to force us to follow Him; just be willing to make that choice for ourselves!

Think about it; all the ancient religions taught that the universe had no beginning,... but one. Some taught that gods came out of sort of a watery substance and that the earth was made through great upheavals and violence between the gods. A religion is worthless unless it is grounded in scientific facts! If there is such a religion today, then we better find out what the truth is in all this!

I believe the God of the Bible is the most logical explanation for our universe as we know it today. Consider these next few statements of rational logic. First, there has to be a cause for every effect. The universe had to come from something. There is no natural explanation for how the sun, moon, and stars could come from nothing! Therefore, for every effect, there has to be a cause! This Cause has to come from outside the universe; outside of nature. In other words;...supernatural. When I state "supernatural" I mean; a limitless being outside of time and space. Think about it! The only religion that ever stated otherwise was the biblical concept of Genesis! God always existed, but the universe did not!

Second, the Cause must be independent of it's effect. It can not be required to depend it's existence upon the universe. For nothing can change from a state of nothingness.

Third, the Cause must be infinitely powerful! If it were limited, it would have to be confined by some other thing. It can not be limited by nothing and if it were limited, it would not be independent any longer. The effect can not be greater than the cause. The Cause has to be greater than the effect! It has to be greater than all the forces of the universe combined!

Fourth, the first Cause must be eternal. The creator must exist outside of time. The God of the Bible stated this in Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58. All the other religions honored harvest gods, war gods, moon gods, sun gods, animal-headed gods, fertility gods and goddesses. In fact, most of these gods were restricted to time as well as location. (1)

Fifth, the first Cause must be spiritual. Only an entity outside the universe could have created it. It must be beyond the physical elements. John 4:24 states that God is Spirit.

Sixth, the first Cause must be all-knowing. The creator created the universe. Albert Einstein wrote, "The harmony of natural law... reveals and intelligence of such superiority that compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an insignificant reflection." (2)

Last, the first Cause must be a Person. There is design in the universe. For it is balanced by the four fundamental nuclear forces. If altered by the slightest one millionth of a degree, all the stars would cease to exist. The Person would have to be a creator with desires, because the creator did not need the creation in order to exist. Rather, the universe was created out of pleasure! It is not unreasonable to suggest that the Bible is the best explanation.

Answer 3

God exists only for someone who exists also. If there is no one to recognize him then He is not anywhere. Just like your father that is not yet a father until you or your siblings came out of this world to recognize and acknowledge him as a father. In the absence of man is also a perfect absence of God and presence of man will become the perfect presence of God.
If all humans commit suicide, it will only prove that sometime ago, somewhere human exist to recognize His presence even God Himself will go back into nothingness because He is also there. Keep trying to sound intelligent. I know it is breaking your brains out to prove yourself. Oftentimes you just thought you are smart because you happened not to meet your equal yet.

Answer 4

WAIT A MINUTE.. WHY are you asking about God if you consider yourself an Atheist? I thought Atheists didn't believe in a God. Which brings up another question.. IF you blame someone.. by being an Atheist I am asuming you blame God for something.. YET if you don't believe in God HOW can he be blamed?

HMMM...

BUt to answer this silly question.
God is God with or without us.

He can be worshipped by the angels.

He doesn't need us for any "power". It's we who need him.

Answer 5

Hi Printninja. By asking Christians to "foil his powers". What you are trying to do is temp God. God warns us very clearly of these temptations in Luke 4:9-13:

"Then he (the Devil) brought Him to Jerusalem, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here. 10 For it is written: ‘ He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you,’ 11 and, ‘ In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’” 12 And Jesus answered and said to him, “It has been said, ‘You shall not tempt the LORD your God."

Answer 6

god will be perfect always. if you keep sinning, he will not lack anyone to praise him. but you will not have the privalege to worship him. you will be burning in hell where the fire never dies. if god's plan can be foiled by human, again i say that he is not worthy to be god. therefore, god is perfect and his plans are perfect.

Answer 7

He created human so He didn't need a human but human need Him!

Answer 8

Ahhhh ...a graduate of the PEA BRAIN School of Theology

give us another question when you get your ideas straight..dude

Answer 9

first off you are not evil probably far from it I would go out on a limb and say most likely your a good person. but you are speaking hypotheticals that would never happen.

Answer 10

He'll just make more humans
ooo burn. god pwns your soul!!!!!!