the answer is simple the Indians were seen as individuals by some of the English men which took their land and decided to help them , so at the end they were treated with some dignity ... in the other side the black were considered inferior until they fought for their rights after they comeback from WWII , a war which they decided to fight and fought with great honor .
i want to add than both of them did suffer from a lot of racism from the whites of that time and that many still do but it is important to mention that not every white was a racist back then nor all are today , Benjamin Franklin for example did understood that they were people and decided to give them their freedom ( to the blacks ) , unfortunately he lost that fight in the south and died being very disappointed of what he could not accomplish ...
there is another very important thing to mention and that would be that until then the whites from that time had have been slaving the Africans already for a long time and that they had just started to have contact with the Indians , so therefor the way in which they were going to be treated was being defined in those moments ... lets just say that when the Africans were being started to be slaved they did not had the luck of having a Benjamin to protect them .
about today , the world and Africa all i have to say is that the world should be doing way more for them since what the world did to them back then still does have a great effect in their culture today ... i mean we are today in this war ( the Americans ) with the excuse that we are doing the right thing because someone out there needs our help , well in simple logic i do not think any of the people who keep saying this to us could explain why in the world we had not help the Africans as much as we are trying to help the Iraqis who by the way would receive America in a so different way that they are being received by the Muslim world ...
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and by the way i do not get all this people saying that one thing was worst than the other , they both were terrible things and should had received both a better justice ... but they did not ... i mean apparently it seems that for some of them think that if their whole family was murdered but they were taken as slaves and then given a life which not human deserves would had been better than seeing the very same thing and then receiving some justice .... and please notice that i say some ...
2007-04-11 19:19:41
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answered by game over 5
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Why? I didn't create the culture. I don't condone it. I fight against racism every day. Why should I be ashamed? With letters I have written to congressmen, essays I have composed, arguments I have had with ignorant people, and time and money I have contributed to causes that help minorities, I suspect I have done more toward a resolution of this problem than you have. Perhaps not, but that is not the point. The point is that your approach to this problem is no help. Stereotyping all white people is NOT the answer to this problem. Two wrongs do not make a right.
That said, you are right about the condition of race in this country. Blacks are still fighting for full equality in this country, and racism has taken a back seat in discussions and politics. We pretend like it has gone away, but racism is everywhere. It is evident in the shamefully small percentage of blacks representing our country in congress. It is evident in the lack of funding and concern for inner city schools where blacks are the majority. It is evident in the words of idiots like Imus and Michael Richards and others like them.
That said, I would not say blacks were treated worse than Native Americans. Differently, yes. Worse, no. The reasons that blacks were enslaved and not Natives has more to do with the Natives entrenchment in the land, and the mass extermination of indians as a result of disease and warfare. Blacks were easier to control, because they were NOT from America. This is why they were enslaved. If you don't mind doing some reading, I highly recommend "Inhuman Bondage," by historian David Brion Davis. He is THE authority on the history of slavery, and this particular book is a great summary of years of work on the subject. It may help you formulate more questions like this to get your information out and bring this issue to the forefront of discussions more. That is what is needed. You have a legitimate complaint. Now formulate a legitimate argument that will do your cause good.
Good luck!
2007-04-11 18:43:31
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answered by Mr. Taco 7
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This is a thoroughly dull declaration. You don't have any thesis and even the slightest notion what you're speakme approximately. I am Native American and we don't get into institution without cost(a ordinary false impression approximately Native Americans). Your remark that "The local Americans we are handiest utilising a small % of America's lands. Barely tapping into the wealthy assets that this nation has." Is precise, that is on the grounds that we as Native Americans weren't interested by taking greater than we would have liked, Native Americans handiest take what they wanted to outlive and preserve, no longer waste away recourses so aggressively as is the train of many international locations and Americans at present.
2016-09-05 10:43:43
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answered by ? 4
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As much as I agree that people were treated horribly, at the same time you can't say that Native American people were not treated worse. I mean, the Native Africans that were involved may have been stolen away from their homelands and treated awfully, but the rest of their people still had their land, family, cultures, etc. (Does not make it any better for the individuals, but at least what was left behind them still existed.) Where as Native people's here, ALL of them were (and still are) involved in a forced movement to terminate them and their cultures, their homelands stolen out from under them with no place to go. If Africans somehow managed to get back home, at least their home and culture was still there.
2007-04-12 11:50:53
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answered by Indigo 7
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I get differing stories on this. I knew a southerner and there is a southerner here. They both went on a rant about hating Republicans because they stole land from white plantation owners to give to the "Blacks". I heard African Americans rant on where is my 40 acres and a mule. A few African Americans friends seem to actually have been compensated. The thing is they were compensated in similar fashion as the Native Americans. THey were given land in the most worthless part of the country. My African friend told me their family own land in Loisiana swamp and Texas desert. THe funny thing is that its not worthless now. THe swamp land has value through its timber, and the desert has oil rights. Like usual fashion, someone cheated out of the money they should have recieved for the timber rights and mineral rights. They seem to have been paid, but was cheated because of the lower education that the older generation recieved. I tried to help my friend get some of the money for the oil that is being pumped , I doubt they could fight the state of Texas and a large oil company.
2007-04-11 18:36:00
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answered by Anonymous
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So go back to Africa. The reason why Native Americans got land is because we took there land and forced them to live on the land they now control. They had treaties with the government and the government broke those treaties. That is where any recompense they get comes from.
Freed slaves were able to go back to Africa, but why would you want to go back to the people, some friends and family, who kidnapped you and sold you into this horrid life. If white people should be ashamed of our race for having slave owners in our history, then blacks should be even more ashamed for selling there own race into it.
And considering the state that Africa is in right now, you should be grateful that you live somewhere that you are not an average person if you have been raped, shot, maimed, gotten horrible diseases, or grown up completely malnourished. Be grateful that you are able to live somewhere that you can get an education, that you can walk down the street without fearing for your life. Maybe the real answer would be to be ashamed of human history, and simply try not to fall into the same narrow path that we seem so incapable of escaping.
2007-04-11 18:46:53
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answered by Memnoch 4
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Oh yeah, genius, the Native Americans got a SWEET deal:
They were hunted down and shot like animals.
Their women raped and their children enslaved (if they were lucky). They were devastated by the germs, and the whiskey, of the "pioneers." They were bought-off with countless "official treaties" only to watch those documents go up in flames along with their villages. They saw the wild game upon which they lived reduced to the point of extinction by the fur trade and trophy hunters. They were herded like livestock into so-called "reservations," North America's very first ghettos, and forced into government "charitable" dependency because they were forbidden both the use of hunting weapons and land upon which to hunt.
As recently as the early 1900's, packs of goons were employed by western mining towns to keep "the damn inguns" away. They were paid by the scalp.
Oh yeah, bro, those Native Americans sure got a butt load of "benefits." Why, it only took four or five-hundred years for them to figure out that their crowded poverty pits called "reservations"---thanks to a happy accident committed by past administrations who never dreamed these once proud nations had a brain between them---were officially "sovereign states" and, as a result, they got to open a handful of casinos.
Seems like a fair trade, right?
In fact when you think about it, a couple hundred years of slavery in the temperate southern states is probably a deal the Native Americans would have lapped up if given the opportunity.
So get the f*ck over it. My own ancestors, white though they may have been, were greeted in this country by signs stating that they "Need Not Apply" for employment in the shops and factories. They were crowded into slums like New York City's infamous "Five Points" (which in its day made any Harlem, South Bronx or East LA look like an Easter parade by comparison) and the only jobs they could get were the ones nobody else wanted: like mining coal for 14 hours a day with freakin' candles on their hats for light.
Ashamed of my culture and history? No. Not even knowing that my "culture" did its best to stomp on "my" people. And you know why? Because my culture--like that of the Native Americans you so seem to envy---is NOT a culture of blame.
2007-04-11 19:23:38
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answered by Anonymous
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because they where inslaved not nearly wiped out,i got a question for you why do blacks think they where the first slaves when it was white irish men that were the first slaves in america second why dont the irish get as much benefits as the blacks did when they were freed meaning they didn't get payed but blacks did why is that
2014-02-21 10:40:52
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answered by ? 1
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First of all, you are comparing apples and oranges.....
We took land from the Native Americans...
We did not take land from Blacks..
America was not hostile toward blacks when they were brought over, as long as they worked, most were well treated.
Most Blacks booked passage for America with the promise to work off their debt by doing several years of work, but ran up bills for room and board and never paid them off.
They were freed and given stripends by the Government, and are still supported today.
2007-04-11 20:36:52
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answered by mslider2 6
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Blacks haven't gotten the same as the Indians because the white people stole their land and slayed thousand of them. And as compensation for taking the land they have the rights to certain privileges. All black people didn't come over here as slaves. That was sooo long ago. Why don't you try getting over it already. Its the women that have been oppressed for longer than any race. Why don't you care that women are still slaves in many countries right now.
2007-04-11 18:52:02
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answered by beyondthelimit 5
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