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So when you sin are you erased or do they just use white out? and not even when you sin but like lets says decide that everything you have been believing in is best said by kriss kross and "wiggity wiggity wack"..are you erased? white out? or just transfered into the book of the dead???

or are you once saved always saved and remain in the lambs book?

2007-04-11 12:01:39 · 21 answers · asked by Sheriff of R&S 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Another interesting question. I certainly don't believe "once saved always saved," though there seems to be some evidence for it scripturally. This is one of those internal debates among Christians and has been for quite some time. I have not decided one way or the other since it is a bit complex and the issues it raises are debatable. Most perceptive of you to pick up on it!

Incidentally, I am not offended in the least by this kind of reasoning. From your line of questioning, you clearly have some kind of familiarity with both scriptures as well as Christian doctrine. If you happened to have grown up in church, I hope you weren't rudely rebuffed if you asked these kinds of questions of some mini pope wannabe pastor type.

Love in Christ,
Tom

2007-04-11 12:11:26 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Heather this is not a subject to joke about. The Lambs Book of Life is a very serious thing. The Bible does talk about having ones name removed....
If you are being or have been taught the "once saved,always saved theology" then you should read the first few chapters of the Book of Revelation. The letters to the seven Churches shows you that some of them were in danger of just such a thing.
This is not some trick one learns to have their cake and eat it too! To be a Christian and to be sure that your name is in and stays in the Lambs Book of Life then you must live a repentant life style.

2007-04-11 12:11:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Satan wisll be looised for a ishort tisme on the finish of the Misllenisum. We'll isee. If you learn Rev. 20: eight,nine there isis an military of isatanisc angelis too. And ishall pass out to deceisve the natisonis whisch are isn the 4 quarteris of the earth, Gog and Magog, to "collect them in combination to wrestle: the quantity of whom [isis] ais the isand of the isea". And "they" went up at the breadth of the earth, and compaisised the camp of the isaisntis approximately, and the cherished cisty: and fisre got here down from God out of heaven, and wolfed them.

2016-09-05 10:21:47 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Revelation talks about blotting names out... Rev. 3:5 All who are victorious will be clothed in white. I will never erase their names from the Book of Life, but I will announce before my Father and his angels that they are mine.

... If names were not SOMETIMES REMOVED, the passage becomes meaningless.

1Peter 4:17 For the time has come for judgment, and it must begin first among God's own children. And if even we Christians must be judged, what terrible fate awaits those who have never believed God's Good News? 18 And "If the righteous are barely saved, what chance will the godless and sinners have?"

You CAN become "UNSAVED."

2007-04-11 12:05:20 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

Once saved, you are written in the Book of Life. There is no book of death. Jesus looks into the Book of Life and if your name is not in it, you will not go to the place He prepared for His children who by faith believed in Him and obeyed Him. Our sins condemned us until God's Grace poured out and saved us = His Son Jesus paid our penalty for our sins thru His own death on the cross. But we all have to choose whether or not to accept this gift of salvation. If we do not choose Jesus as our Savior, then we must pay our own debt for our sins. Sin's penalty is death= Spiritual death which results in eternal hell. Whether you can fall out of grace or not is not agreed on by all christians. Some, including Baptists believe once saved, always saved. Some believe you can fall out of grace and be blotted out of the Book of life. Others believe that maybe you weren't truly saved to begin with, is why you fall. Doesn't really matter, what matters is: When you are judged, The Lord looks at your heart. You won't be asked What religion did you follow, but WHO did you follow? If Jesus is not the answer, you won't be in the Book of Life, for Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the LIFE.

2007-04-11 12:18:57 · answer #5 · answered by connie 6 · 1 1

Save yourself a lot of grief, mental anguish, and possible self deception. If you aren't reading the book, you are going nowhere. If you are listening to people in any way, shape, or form, you are in for major problems. People lie. The book doesn't lie. If this is something you aren't going to take seriously it's actually better that you hadn't heard about at all.

You'll do one of three things:

1.) Drop it completely.

2.) Hold to a form of it always doubting in every direction amid a slew of people who are doing the same thing but won't admit it.

3. ) It'll be real. Then - you get answers. From where they should be coming from.

2007-04-11 12:10:49 · answer #6 · answered by vanamont7 7 · 2 2

I do not believe that people are erased from the lamb's book of life

I think God disciplines people who sin and brings them back to Himself I also think some people who habitually sin and never change are not saved

3 John He who does right is from God, He who sins has not seen God

2007-04-11 12:10:06 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Only if you commit apostasy are you blotted out, otherwise it's your sins that are blotted out.

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."
-John 3:36

"And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand."
-John 10:28 (NKJV)


"For a believer to lose his salvation would demand a reversal and an undoing of all the preceding works of the Father, Son, and Spirit. The key issue in the discussion of the believer's security concerns the issue of who does the saving. If man is responsible for securing his salvation, then he can be lost; if God secures the person's salvation, then the person is forever secure."
-Paul Enns

In Matthew 12:31-32, Jesus says to the Pharisees,

"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come" (NKJV, emphasis added).

What is the context of these statements, and what is the exact sin described?

"The unforgivable sin of speaking against the Holy Spirit has been interpreted in various ways, but the true meaning cannot contradict other Scripture. It is unequivocally clear that the one unforgivable sin is permanently rejecting Christ (John 3:18; 3:36). Thus, speaking against the Holy Spirit is equivalent to rejecting Christ with such finality that no future repentance is possible.

2007-04-11 12:09:21 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

Once you get your messed up spirit "Recreated" (born-again,saved), you would have to commit the Unpardonable Sin to lose your Salvation (mess up your spirit again).

Regular ole' sins like cussing, getting drunk, fornication, murder, being gay, stealing so on, won't mess up your spirit, they'll just give you a hard time.

You name is in the Book unless you do commit the unpardonable sin, which is very hard to do and few ever do it.
RULE of THUMB: if you are Scared that you have committed the Unpardonable Sin--YOU HAVE NOT.
Hope this helps.

2007-04-11 12:10:53 · answer #9 · answered by maguyver727 7 · 2 2

There is no such thing as once saved always saved. It is possible to lose ones salvation, which is why Jesus says 'those who persevere to the end will be saved'

2007-04-11 12:10:34 · answer #10 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 4 0

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