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Again, the same chapter but just a little bit lower of the verses he again said,,, "... for the father is greater than all " ( Revised Standard Version of the Bible ) ... Are the verses correct? I'm so confused!!

2007-04-11 08:41:44 · 15 answers · asked by desiderata80d 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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He meant the father was in his "third eye". They were joined in spirit. That is how he and the father are one. That is what is meant by the saying, "all is one."

He didn't mean he was God like so many think.

2007-04-11 08:46:48 · answer #1 · answered by MyPreshus 7 · 2 5

The scriptures are correct. Mans false Trinity teaching is WRONG !!! Jesus and the Father are one, in union, in that they stand for the same. Jesus prays in John Chapter 17 to his Father that his followers could be one with them. Was he praying that we all become part of the trinity? No. One that we all stand for the same thing, that we are all in union with one another. Just read John 17, it's so clear that his Father is Jehovah and that he is his Son. The word trinity is not even found in any Bible translation. It's a satanic teaching that hides Jehovah's true identity.

2007-04-11 15:50:20 · answer #2 · answered by Jason W 4 · 3 0

No, both versus are incorrect if by correct you mean true. Jesus was not God, and if you don't believe me then do you believe your own bible when it states:

Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Mark 16:19
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

John 8:40
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God.

John 14:28
My Father is greater than I.

John 20:17
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Acts 17:31
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

1 Corinthians 11:3
The head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Colossians 3:1
Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

2007-04-11 15:51:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

Actually Jesus said, "My Father...is greater than all" BEFORE he said, "I and My Father are one.” (John 10:29-30) Later in the same chapter Jesus said, "...the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”

They were trying to stone Jesus for blasphemy. He told them plainly that He is God. Also important to note is that they did not harm Him because it was not yet His time. The Bible is the infallible and inerrant word of God.

The Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit...and also clearly presents that there is only one God.

2007-04-11 16:11:01 · answer #4 · answered by Sister Christian 3 · 0 1

Jesus and his Father are one in the same sense that a married man and woman are one - they are connected and united in thought/will/purpose/goals/etc.
Jesus never claimed to be the same as his Father, which would contradict his statement that the Father is greater than he.

2007-04-11 15:54:05 · answer #5 · answered by DwayneWayne 4 · 3 0

The connection beetwen the 3 Persons of the Holy Trinity (The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit) is made by Love. And ther are 3 Persons in 1 Beeing because when you love somebody and when you are connected with that person you don't supress the existence of that person (as a personality) but you recognize that persons individuality and so you and that person are united and also distinct. I think this is the ideea. SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH.

2007-04-11 15:58:46 · answer #6 · answered by alinbs95 1 · 0 2

Do not confuse oneness with sameness.

The bible also says a man and woman shall be one flesh. This doesn't mean they become the same being or one being. Unity of mind is oneness.

Jesus was not God!

That statement I and the father are one is very similar to the Buddhist idea of being one with life / nature. It doesn't mean you become nature only that you live in harmony with it and not in conflict to it!

2007-04-11 15:49:26 · answer #7 · answered by Pastor Iblis 2 · 3 1

I understand.

Cross reference that scripture with John 10:38; 17:11,21.

Jesus was showing how he was in union with his Father. Not that they are the same or equal, but that he was sent to do the will of his father, so their thoughts were in union. Notice in the other scriptures how Jesus referred to others being in union with him and the father also. Was he stating that in turn they are equal to the father? No, just that they would know that Jesus was doing his Father's will.

Hope this helped some.

2007-04-11 15:48:25 · answer #8 · answered by ♥LadyC♥ 6 · 4 2

We are all one with God. Jesus was trying to teach spirituality not religion. Unfortunately, everything in life is up for interpretation, including what Jesus Christ said and what he MEANT. Seriously, how can anyone answer that question correctly other than Jesus Christ himself? It's all interpretation.

2007-04-11 15:48:39 · answer #9 · answered by Laurie Lee 3 · 0 2

Jesus, God, and the Holy Ghost are one, only meaning that they are one in agreeance. They agree with each other on everything, they are all separate, God has a body and so does Jesus. The Holy Ghost will have a body after everyone has lived on the Earth, His mission is to help people while they are here. Jesus is not 100% God because He was born to a mortal and an immortal person. He is half God. The fact that He is half God made His death a choice, He could've lived on the cross forever.

2007-04-11 15:46:34 · answer #10 · answered by chrishw 3 · 1 5

He and the Father are one, shows the oneness of God.

Saying the father is greater than all is just stating that God is all great. He had already said that they are one, so they are one, all great.

Seems straight forward to me!

Peace!

2007-04-11 15:46:51 · answer #11 · answered by C 7 · 0 4

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