Based on this question,
some cheese ball stated "checkmate" after his answer,
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsdNvMVJVvKiDflvOZg6h3nd7BR.?qid=20070411081306AA0IMgb
And I'm just wondering, this god of his or hers, k, if things can't just pop into existence without a creator, whats his or hers' gods creator?
To the theist I proudly declare checkmate, and stop playing you lose every single time.
2007-04-11 04:26:48 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I proclaim stalemate.
Should a creator indeed be needed for my creator, then I submit that your random chance big bang universe also required a creator.
So with this problem nagging at the "big bangists", they simply deny a creator, and thus declare checkmate.
And logic slowly fades away.
2007-04-11 05:50:43 · answer #1 · answered by awayforabit 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Checkmate? I declare an illegal move to the checkmate.
The options are Creator vs. Perpetual Existence (big bang, etc)
Both of these options require a great deal of faith. I think you will agree that humans have struggled over the chicken vs. egg question. Something must come before something else correct? But that must mean there is no creator right? Wrong. Something had to have come first.
If this is a logic based argument, isn't it easier to believe in an intelligent supreme designer being the original than an infinite randomness always being in existence?
But then the evolutionists pull out the "Big Bang-Big Crunch theory" and that these things exist outside of Time and Space. If this is so easy for atheists to believe, then why can't God exist outside of Time and Space?
I'll gladly keep this conversation going so long as it is mature and without personal attack.
2007-04-11 11:53:11 · answer #2 · answered by Michael Y 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think this is a problem just for theists. What created the energy needed for the big bang? Was it always there? If not where did it come form? If you say the energy was always there, than how if that different than claiming that God has always existed?
2007-04-11 11:34:07 · answer #3 · answered by joatman71 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
If everything has a cause, the God does, too.
If anything can exist without a cause, it might as well be the Universe as God.
2007-04-11 12:03:12 · answer #4 · answered by Praise Singer 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is spirit only. He (figuratively speaking) does not have a body...thus no need to create. God is the life force of the universe. God is that which created life. Spirit is incidentally the one thing that makes man different from the lower animals.
Sorry, but I don't buy in to your "checkmate" philosophy. It is based on your own lack of awareness of self.
2007-04-11 11:32:31 · answer #5 · answered by Poohcat1 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
If everything has to have a creator, like you say, then there would never be anything, because something at one point would have had to pot into existence to create other things. So your statement is as dumb as your chess playing friends.
2007-04-11 11:30:33 · answer #6 · answered by Dale D 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
God's mommy and daddy laid down on the celestial prayer mat and conceived god.
Just because god created our plane of existance dosen't mean that he is the creator of his own universe.
2007-04-11 11:38:11 · answer #7 · answered by tokyocowboy 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Christians will tell you that God is self-existing, and then reference the "I AM" thing. It's a conclusion that lacks support unless you take The Bible to be absolute truth.
2007-04-11 11:30:31 · answer #8 · answered by RabidBunyip 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Man
2007-04-11 11:29:29 · answer #9 · answered by Kendra O 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Well, I personally believe that, if there is a God, it evolved and gained sentiency through evolution. but I'm not ready to yell checkmate and do a happy little butt-shakin' victory dance. I admit I don't know sh!t.
2007-04-11 11:30:33 · answer #10 · answered by ZombieTrix 2012 6 · 2⤊ 2⤋