Abortion - some of these answers are making me CRAZY!?

Question

How many of the poeple who are going on about abortion being a crime, a murder, a mortal sin etc have actually been in this position.

Abortion is certainly something that should be treated with care and not taken lightly. I think it becomes more questionable after eight weeks. However, to condemn and judge those who feel they have no choice is cruel and unnecessary. You are making a difficult decision a whole lot harder.

I am a Christian. I understand the importance of human life.

However, I also know the bible tells us not to judge. Some people on here should think on that a bit....

Anyway.... Rant Over.... I'm prepared to be lambasted by you all!

Answer 1

I completely agree. I am also a Christian and have never judged people on this, but I also thought that I would never do it. I was wrong. I was put in this situation and had to make the decision, it was awful.

Answer 2

Yes, when everyone has said "after about 8 weeks it's a different matter" let's put up the horror show of an 11 week abortion. Way to go, that's fantastic, really makes me want to listen to things you have to say.

I agree, Searching, a very eloquent rant indeed. You certainly don't strike me as the kind of person who would take anything which doesn't agree with your position as lambasting - I sense a little projection coming from those accusing of this.

I have said on this board more than once that I have had an abortion. It's not something I'm ashamed of, nor is it something I'm proud of, it's just something that happened. I've never regretted it for a second, going through with the pregnancy was never an option for a number of reasons. But it is something I feel strongly about.

I can't stand it when people - women yet - say you don't have to be in the situation to know what it's like. Crap. It's not unique to this situation, you can never fully appreciate something unless you've faced it. Of course you can have an opinion, but that doesn't mean you actually know what you are talking about. As I said, for me there really was no question, I didn't even feel like I had a decision to make. For that reason I had it easy - I don't know how I would face it were I to find myself pregnant now, as my situation is in some ways very different, but in some ways nothing's changed.

I'd just like to point out to those who say "you can always give the baby up for adoption" that you are neglecting one very important thing. Pregnancy is a 24 hour a day, 7 day a week reality which cannot be escaped, and usually lasts around 9 months. From virtually the second the cells fused I was as sick as I've ever been in my life. I doubt my life was ever actually in danger, but I can't imagine what more than a few weeks of that would have done to me, let alone to the baby. It's not like there's an undersupply of already born and living children who need taking care of already.

Thanks for the rational Christian view.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

I hear you. The issue for me is that I am pro-choice myself.....but only in the first few weeks. Then I believe it can become an issue. What about "partial birth abortion"? Have you seen pictures of this? It is a baby. It is horrible, it is murder.

I think there is room for judgement. Have you ever heard of a crime committed where the mother was killed and then you hear she was pregnant too? The first reaction is usually "oh my, thats awful, not the baby too!" Think about it. Believe me, I don't like what the radical right does with this, but I can't stand the radical left even more.

As for longer term abortion, yes I think it is murder and yes I think that person should be judged. With the exception that not doing so could kill the mother. That is the only thing that would sway me.

Just my two cents

Answer 5

I am a Christian and have the same beliefs as you. I don't feel abortion should be used as birth control, that's just wrong. But I don't feel that someone who has been raped, a victim of incest, etc. should be socially condemned for not keeping the baby.

I'm lambasted for this belief all the time...my m-i-l is an evangelical. I love her...but when religion/politics come up...*cringe*.

Answer 6

thanks for your rant. it's very true. I'm not religious but also never understood the religious groups that are pro-life/anti-abortion... when it is in their religion not to judge others. if they are supposed to be judged after death...then why not leave them alone to be judged after death?

abortion is a personal choice, and should be defended as a personal choice. One may not beleive in abortion...but should leave that decision to the person whose body it is.

yeah and i also never understood the no-abortion yet pro-death penalty thing... it makes no sense whatsoever.


oh one more thing...if the reliogious believe that every soul has a purpose to fulfill and god knows the purpose/gives the purpose and everything that is meant to be will be and should be...then why is it hard to imagine that perhaps it is meant to be (by god) that a person has an abortion? perhaps it (the abortion) is part of the plan of the path of life that your god has created? perhaps there is a reason behind it. why can't teh religious think of it this way? hmmm...perhaps i'll make a seperate post about this.

Answer 7

it's murder once it's heart starts beating and the brain starts working, Because it's a life seperate from the mothers, own body own blood whole works. Before that no, it's destroying a potential, but not someone living. That's the way I see it.
And I do have a friend who was in that position, she did it immediately and took care of the 3 kids she already had. It's sad to have to do, and she feels guilty still now and then (the abortion was years ago) but another what is it 5000-8000 hospital bill was more than she could handle. It's hard I know, but after a certain point it's murder.
I'm sory for your experience and I sincerely hope that you are going to be well and happy in your life (no sarcasem involved my friend when through some depression). Good luck. And I hope it was done early.
Personally I vote for getting fixed rather than taking a life personally.

Answer 8

You know I'm very open about this fact with everyone so I figure I shall share it. I have been raped. I was far too young to know what that meant, but in college I joined a rape survivors group. I met a girl who was molested by her grandfather and probably would have been continued to be after 13 except he died. She was too ashamed to tell anyone in her family--imagine if she would have turned up preg. She wouldn't be able to tell anyone who the father was without destroying her family. That extra mouth to feed would have made it impossible for her to go to college. I met several people who had been date-raped with drugs while on campus. We often talked about if they turned up preg, would she have an abortion and it burns me up when people call that "iffy" grounds for an abortion! damn religious right. You don't know what you are talking about and so should be forced to lay in your own vomit. Why should my life be ruined b/c of a crime? If your house is broken into, you don't have to change your entire life. It's bad enough that you have to survive with the knowledge everyday that you were raped, but to then give up your hopes and dreams--give up graduating college, going on to law school so that you can raise a baby (without a husband) and spend your life being told by this religious bunch that You should have used protection. I'm sorry but after the drugs were in her system, I doubt she thought to ask if the rapist would be considerate enough to wear protection.

I happen to not be against voluntary abortion either. "What crime has the fetus done" is one of the stupidest arguments out there. My best friend is a social worker and everyday comes home asking "what crime did the child do" that makes its parents hate it so much? None. What this religious group should be asking is why do WISH TO INFLICT such pain on a child, why should you subject a child to being raised with parents who knew in advance they didn't want the kid and were not fit parents? We are hardly in the position in our society where the population is dwendling and we need those children to survive in order not to die out as a population.

*Children should not have to live a life unwanted, beaten, praying each day to die.
*Mothers should not be forced to be mothers if they are smart enough to know they are unfit.
*A young girl who is raped should not have her entire life's dreams gone with one criminal act against her.

And those are not IFFY. That belief that those reasons are iffy mean that you think the crime commited there is IFFY as well. Get off your soap box and spend some time with these mothers. Instead of spending your day throwing paint on their clothes, why don't you investigate to see if they can afford to replace those clothes you ruined? Watch the hospital staff help a "crack baby". This Religious Right has never seen any of this stuff yet run their mouths the loudest as if volume can make up for lack of knowledge.

Answer 9

Have you ever seen an abortion? This video shows one. The fetus here is 11 weeks.
In the video, it shows the fetus sensing what is happening.
The video actually shows the fetus trying to get away from the vacuum. The heart rate increases.
Perhaps the same thing occurs with a fetus younger than 11 weeks.

http://www.silentscream.org/

Most women regret their choice. It is wrong to kill somebody who has the potential to have a life just because you wanted to have sex.

Rape and the mother's life in danger should be the only circumstances. Not as birth control!
If you are not ready to have a child then don't have sex or get yourself sterilized if you never want to have children then nobody has to make the diffcult choice of having an abortion.

Answer 10

As a Christian, I would have to agree with you. One must not judge, with the measure we judge we too shall be judged by God. And also Sin is sin, in the eyes of God, so if you lie you sin, if you steal you sin, if you murder it is sin, etc. We as a society have placed different values on sin. And God will look at our hearts, each as an individual. No one will be there to hold our hands, speak for us. We will be alone to answer the call for everything we have done in our lives. God bless****

Answer 11

Great rant! You come across as a thinking, caring person. We have to be supportive of women in bad situations. In the United States its getting more and more difficult for single mothers, and even married women with limited income to raise children. Our government provides less support than ever, but they don't want women to have contraception or abortions, and being a woman on government assistance is demeaning. Lets all try to be a bit more understanding.

Great job! You get a star from me. :-)