Who cares about the rights of the criminals, they don't care about the rights of their victims?

Question

Have you ever come across a politician who isn't a hypocrite. I say a person should be able to defend themselves and their proerty during the commission of a crime, not go off vigelante style.

Yes rebel I have been in prison, Have you? and yes I was guilty. The prison I was in was a damn sight tougher than the prisons seem to be, it was a millitary prison which is tough and has a very strict regime, there you just about have the right to breath, if you are a good boy.

I agree a millitary prison is very different from a civilian one, you're not allowed radio's, tv's or cd players. you have committed a crime and are being punished for it.

Answer 1

There's an extent to which I do care about the rights of a criminal. A guy who steals $100 from his employer should not be tortured every day for the next 25 years in a prison camp.

But that's an extreme example. Mostly I feel they forfeit their rights to the same treatments as everyone else when they refuse to abide by the same rules as everyone else. Their rights should be stripped down to the basics.

Bear in mind, though, caring even a little for the rights of a criminal is what makes us better than them.

Answer 2

Totally agree, I am so sick of this pandering to criminals and their rights when no one gives a toss about the victims of the crimes. All you hear about is that they have had hard lives and this is why they turned to drugs and crime - the rest of us havent grown up in wonderland either just we dont use cr*p that we have had to deal with as an excuse to go and beat the cr*p out an eighty year old woman for her hard earned trinkets that she has collected over the years.

Prisons should go back to the way they were years ago - no tvs, no cd players etc. This is not torture this is punishment for doing wrong.

National Service should be brought back - This would give young people a sense of right and wrong seeing as a lot of people are brought up these days with any knowledge of this.

Cushy prisons obviously arent helping seeing as the amount of crime that is being comitted and the government should look to prevention rather than 'cure'.

Answer 3

Americans care about the rights of the accused. Our founding fathers remember the Salem Witch Trials, and our grandfathers remembered the Soviet and Nazi oppression.

The French don't care about the rights of the accused. Napoleon said something like "guilty until proven innocent".

As Americans though, we believe in a fair trial. Because anyone might be accused.

In Pakistan, if I liked your land or your wife, I could accuse you of some crime, and then get you out of the way. There the accused have no rights.

In America, criminals can be made to pay restitution. McVeigh was executed. We do care about the rights of victims.

However, it seems many people don't care much for the rights of the victims of the Enron scandal, or the rights of the victims of Katrina.

Some judges are sometimes paid off. Rich people sometimes get away with murder. But people are outraged by this.

Oh yeah, I also agree with self defense. Even if the aggressor is starting to run away, you can't always tell when the danger is over.

Answer 4

I am an ex offender and am deeply sorry for the crimes i committed and the company i ripped off, However i paid by debts to society and now am a law abiding citizen who has been able to find a good job, I believe some rights should not be able to me but i believe that everybody deserves a fair chance in life but depending on the crime and the situation that the person is in when they commit the crime. ewell that my opition but who am i to judge when for many years i have been judged, Funny now that i work in a prison though i guess they gave me a chance.

Answer 5

I do not give a damn for criminals. However, we must first allow all accused persons the benefit of the doubt and a fair trial. If it proves they are guilty then from that point on and for the duration of their sentence [mandatory prison in the case of burglary etc] all their rights as citizens save one, should be denied. Only one right should remain and that is the right of appeal against sentence. Following that 'zilch'.

Lock em up and throw away the key.

Convicts should be made to work for their victims. By that I mean if they have anything of value it should be automatically confiscated by the court and sold at auction to the highest bidder. The money made by the sale of a criminals' possessions should then be made available to the victims of crime.

Where a criminal has no money or possessions, that criminal must be made to work full time and their wages and/or salary confiscated and handed over the family of his victim[s].

NO EXCUSES ACCEPTED. Judges who do not support the victimes of crime by handing down long hard sentences, sould be sacked from their jobs. All the judges of England should be elected to their posts by the electorate of England.

Answer 6

I whole heartedly agree with you my friend and I'm glad that you can see the error of your previous ways.

This society has gone mad with the rights of the criminal who disregards the rights of the victim and their friends and family when they commit their crime.

I personally think you forfeit your rights when you become a prisoner.

As for innocent people being arrested, it happens but usually due to the wrong evidence being available to the police such as the finger being pointed at the wrong person.

A Police officer can arrest if (briefly) he/she suspects a crime has been committed and suspects a person has committed the crime (sec 24 PACE)

I've arrested people who have proved to be innocent, it happens but we can only work on the evidence that we have and if the person feels they have been wrongly treated, the procedures are in place for them to pursue a complaint.

An arrest is merely a way of getting a person before the Courts. It doesn't automatically mean the person is guilty.

Answer 7

In Crime and Punishment, Dostoevsky wrote “The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons"

this is why.

Answer 8

Well it would seem most of the people who have answered your question care very much (as do I) about the rights of victim's .
And of course the criminal doesn't care he is operating with a you have it and I want it mentality,with the full backing of the human rights and PC brigade.

Answer 9

you aint too bright are you? a military prison is a lot different than civilian prisons. Everyone has rights, no matter what they did, its in the constitution. and you must have done something pretty stupid to get into a military prison, or are you just plain stupid?

Answer 10

Good question. Once a person has been proven to have committed a crime against another, then let he or she sit in an 8x10 cell to think over whether it was worth it or not.