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Why doesn't the healings prove that praying to saints work. Are they being misled by the devil or something.

2007-04-10 17:24:05 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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God works in mysterious ways.
No one knows the mind of God, but God.
If anyone claims to be healed, the doctors would then say: "were you sick to begin with?" Nobody wants to credit such things to God. They are unexplainable. The Catholic doctrine is clear. It is through God that all things are done. All miracles are worked through Him. The Saints were people of unusual grace in which God Himself poured in perfect measure, and they themselves were quick to attribute any and all miracles to His saving grace and mercy. These were humble people, and their example is a wonderful signpost for all of us to see that God is With Us still.

2007-04-10 17:42:37 · answer #1 · answered by Shinigami 7 · 0 0

here's my family story of prayer-free medical "miracle":

my mom had terrible knee pain and couldn't bend it a year ago, and was told by doctor she had no knee cartilage left so she needed immediate knee replacement surgery. she didn't want surgery if there where alternatives, so she got insurance to let her do physical therapy instead. She took pain medication and OTC knee lubricant pills (move free). She needed a walking cane. 6 week later she's fine. And now she only takes knee lubricant supplement pills, she doesn't even do her physical therapy exercises any more. A miracle? She thinks the doctor may have been a bit of a quack or not experienced, too quick in recommending expensive surgery.

She didn't pray. She's not a Christian or religious. But if we where, I'm sure we'd all be praising the lord and JC for healing our mom with a miracle just for us. She hasn't even mentioned it as exceptional, other than the doctor was greedy and wanted to cut her, and she's glad she waited.

If you want to prove an indisputable miracle: there is the atheist website "Why Doesn't God Cure Amputees?" Growing back a lost limb ... that would be a undoubtable miracle. The body is capable of amazing and mysterious, non-miraculous, self-healing on its own, but not for amputations.

2007-04-10 17:46:53 · answer #2 · answered by d c 3 · 0 1

Catholics Are Nor Born Again, Though For Their Sake I Hope They Are.
Prayers Are Answered If In Jesus Name Otherwise The Dark Forces Will Answer In Some Sort of Short Lived Semblance

2007-04-10 17:34:26 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

According to the Bible, all true Christians are saints. The saints Catholics are dead, cannot answer any prayers or heal anyone. Maybe some Catholics pray directly to God, through Jesus, as we are told to in the Bible. We are to have no mediator when we pray other than Jesus...no one else.

2007-04-10 17:29:54 · answer #4 · answered by Debbie R 3 · 1 0

If Catholics are praying to saints and being healed then yes they are being fooled by seducing spirits and doctines of devils as the scripture says.

The Bible says to be not suprised that some of the ministers of the gospel are devils.

2007-04-10 17:28:26 · answer #5 · answered by wisdom 4 · 2 0

i replaced into raised catholic and went to Protestant and Evangelical church homes for years. there are quite a few good human beings in those places and in some strategies its sturdy they exist because they do provide some human beings a style of a relationship with God. notwithstanding the real faith as practiced by technique of the apostles is what the Church (Catholic) does on the instantaneous. Spouting some theories that you've or heard on the Catholic Church in basic terms shows how dumb and deceive human beings truly are. i'm completely suggested about Evengelicals etc, i will argue twenty differing viewpoints using the bible on my own. I truly have because that come decrease back to the real church and guess what Jesus is there!!

2016-12-03 20:03:49 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

80,000 catholics make the mecca to the waterfall where Mary was seen by some kids decades ago. They go there to get healed. And in 20 years, 60 people have claimed that they were healed by said holy waterfall. All healings were superficial. No one grew a limb back. No one was cured of cancer.

Coincidence? I think so.

2007-04-10 17:28:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I don't know about praying to saints. However, I wouldn't say Catholics weren't Christians. I'm not sure how to answer that, other than I don't recall any scriptural basis for it.

2007-04-10 17:33:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

True Christians? That's an oxymoron! You are either Christian or you are not. True Christians believe in Jesus Christ. Period. It doesn't matter what church or denomination they belong to. Christianity is an umbrella word for all denominations and beliefs in Jesus Christ as a savior. If I were to call anyone true Christians it would be James and his brethren whose church (the Church of Jerusalem) was destroyed by order of the Roman Catholic Church. They were labeled as heretics because they didn't believe in Paul's (Catholic) made up tradition of Christianity. But, everyone is free to worship and believe as they choose regardless of whether or not they are Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Pagan, Hindu, Athiest, Humanist, Scientologist, Qabbalist, or whatever.

2007-04-10 18:04:09 · answer #9 · answered by The Rev. Jasper Sparrowhawk 2 · 0 0

No Catholic says that a Saint healed them by his own power, but Scripture literally says that people were healed by the Apostles, etc., but in other places makes it obvious how to understand that, as making the Saint a Catalyst of the powerful DIVINE SPIRIT WHO is their LIFE. In order to prove on earth a reality in Heaven of someone having entered Heaven with honor for their sacred life on earth, the HOLY SPIRIT often speaks to a person's heart to ask such and such Saint in Heaven to also pray for their need. By the Healing from GOD and the said Saint's Intercession tying in together like this, it shows a Unity of the devotion to GOD we must reproduce in our own lives and the very existence of GOD HIMSELF, and this added dimension of undeniable Providence makes the identity of GOD and HIS one, holy, apostolic and Catholic Church obvious to earnest seekers.

satan cannot do the many things GOD has done for HIS Saints and through them for the Salvation of others.

As for Prayer, no one man has made a worthy pronouncement against it's very real effects. Many scientifically undeniable Miracles have been well recorded in the modern age - only a blind fool makes a blanket statement that they do not and have not occurred. I personally have seen a split tongue healed in an instant, a third degree burn healed in an instant, and a dead dog rise back to lif on the Sunday commemorating the LORD's Resurrection. I used to hate Catholics, but I am one now.

We must ask GOD for all things, but the Saints in Heaven - all Members of the Catholic Church - are more alive than sinners in this world, who, because they sin, are not holy, and, thus, not Saints (and if experiments depended on their Prayers, outside of a state of Grace, why judge Saints' Prayers without likewise looking at their results separately?), and the Saints are worthy friends to have praying for our good. They aren't idle in the direct Presence of GOD (just as Angels are never idle). And the Charisms of the SPIRIT they had from GOD as they left this world are multiplied in Heaven.

As for Miracles for unbelievers, GOD doesn't lack pity for any decent soul.

I know too many people that have had things occur only when a certain Novena was being prayed, and never before that, nor after, even as far as events that looked hopeless turning out splendidly for them. But they knew it was GOD, and didn't think that they had offered any plee (the meaning of prayer) to a Saint except to pray that the Grace on them would manifest from GOD on their behalf as well.

As for Lourdes, since GOD never promised that HE would do all things in conjunction with that Holy Spot, all Miracles needn't occur there - however, there have been very real healings, in total contradiction to a comment or two above, such as a man whoes spine had been destroyed, getting healed, and having to argue with the government not to send him lifelong disability pay any more.

2007-04-10 18:09:06 · answer #10 · answered by Travis J 3 · 0 0

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