Actually upon reading that topic I wasnt going to point out that it is indeed the exct opposite of free will..Its not free will if god knows we are going to do it. and for the matter if god laready knows that we are going to do such and sch at uch and such time...Why be punished for it? I mean that scripture actively points out that every person that is born and died is meant to be born and die and all the details in between were merely a refelection of God's plan at hand.
See how infamously retarted that sounds? IF God has a divine plan for each of us then he had a divine plan for hitler too. Can you blame him for being a puppet in a divine plan? Can you really punish him? Furthermore what good does prayer really do? The idea of a "plan" makes the idea of a "prayer-answering relationship with God" a contradiction.
I guess only if you are really intelligent and can sit down and think about that for a minute, the contradictions should hit you like a ton of bricks.
2007-04-10 15:21:39 · 12 answers · asked by Sheriff of R&S 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Right.
Christianity makes sense... if you don't look too closely at the logic. It relies heavily on circular reasoning, your example being one of many.
2007-04-10 15:25:18 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
Paul talks about that in several places. One of the plainest is in Romans 8:2. It states there that we can know the "good", and the "acceptable" and the "perfect" wills of God.
While God has a plan for each person, and designs them to be able to accomplish that plan, that does not force any person to do it. It is up to each person to decide if they will walk in that plan. There are those who do, and find the "perfect" will of God. There are others who only make it into his "acceptable" will. There are those who do "good" things, but never really do what God planned. And there are those who totally reject his will. Hitler would be an example of such a person.
Hitler was someone who had leadership abilities, and a charisma that let him sway large crowds and whole countries. Had it followed God's plan for him, he could have been a powerful influence for good in the world. But instead he took those gifts and used them for evil. It was his choose, not God's, to do that.
You seem not to understand that just because God has a plan does not force you to fulfill that plan. The Bible refers often to man's failure to follow the plan of God. It is called "sin".
2007-04-10 22:40:06 · answer #2 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
While God does have a divine plan for all His followers, not everyone chooses to follow Him. Those who do choose to follow Him, at times, step out of Gods will for them
(His plan) and take a wrong course. This wrong course is called "Sin" and it leads us away from Gods best for us.
God is able to help steer His followers back on course, but those who do not believe, those who reject Gods plan for their lives, continue on their own journey ignoring God all together. While God does have a plan for each and everyone of us, He does not force us to do things His way. He graciously gives us the freedom to choose as we please.
What we do with that freedom, decides our eternal destiny.
I hope this helps clarify your misconception of "Free Will"
God Bless You....Peace.
2007-04-10 23:40:25 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
humanly intelligence will (or so i believe) never match Godly intelligence. His will does not need to run parallel to what humans generally believe is 'right' and 'wrong'. just because God knows something will happen, does not mean He did not bless us with free will. An intelligent person would see what the psalm wrote and think 'hey! when interpreted literally this implies God did not bless us with free will'. however, the key word there is 'literally'; one can't be sure that the real intentions of that psalm are to spawn those very same thoughts, to challenge the faith of one, and see if he or she still believes in God. I'm not saying that is the 100% correct interpretation of the psalm, but i'm saying it is certainly possible that God works in mysterious ways.
2007-04-10 22:29:20 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Where this gets misunderstood is that God has a plan and He wants us to follow that plan. He offers to help us do it. His plan will succeed whether we cooperate and do our part or not. He will find someone willing to do what needs to be done. He does not control who does what needs to be done. He gives us the option to work with Him or not. He knows our tendencies and calls to us. If we did not have free will He would not have to call us. We would just act without thinking.
2007-04-10 22:29:34 · answer #5 · answered by kaehya2003 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Take care on how something is explained.
The writer is stating his name and what he did is written in the book, not a predestined mode of life.
2007-04-10 23:44:35 · answer #6 · answered by cordsoforion 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
it's kind of ridiculous to say that as soon as somebody knows what you're going to do, it stops being free will. free will is the ability to act independently. if i know that my little brother is going to order a cheeseburger at macdonalds, that does not mean i made the choice for him. i did not affect his choice in any way just by knowing what he would choose.
2007-04-10 22:29:10 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Aren't you so clever? NO! God still gives us free will to follow the plan he has for everyone. There is nothing that says we have to follow his divine plan.
2007-04-10 22:26:25 · answer #8 · answered by robyn 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Psalms 139:16?...Proof than we were with God before being born
2007-04-10 22:29:36 · answer #9 · answered by Royal Racer Hell=Grave © 7 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Did you not get the part about ,we pick WILL WE DO GODS WILL,OR FOLLOW ANOTHER PATH.
now how hard is that to understand.
You are a real blond.<><
no offense to all my blond friends and daughter.
2007-04-10 22:27:00 · answer #10 · answered by funnana 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋