What's your reaction to the complexity of the human species?

Question

Many Christians argue that since humans are such complex organisms, we MUST have created by something/someone greater than we could ever imagine.

Yet, this complexity is exactly what makes me a non-believer. I believe that comlex design is the result of natural selection and evolution, not some God.

I was just curious as to what you guys think. :o)

Answer 1

Both arguments are stupid (no offense, bear with me). There is nothing that says that humans can be too complicated to come about by evolution, and there's nothing that says that they couldn't have been created by god, if you look at the definition of god. Both sides need to do a little research. Evolution makes perfect sense to someone who understands it, just like creationism makes perfect sense to someone who believes in it.

Answer 2

I agree. There is no evidence for a creator and the idea that something complex (like humans) requires something more complex to create them leads to an argument of infinite regression. The more complex creator must have had a more complex creator as well. And so on and so on.

When the christian remarks that god is 'the uncreated creator' or that 'he is outside of time' or that he 'is the alpha and the omega and doesn't need a creator' those are examples of "special pleading." I invite all theists and creationists to look the term up.

Early life most assuredly started simply and progressed and evolved over millions of generations into more complex organisms. To say that it would be impossible for an amoeba to evolve into a horse is like saying it would be impossible to walk from Toronto to Albuquerque. If one is able to take one step one is able to take a million steps.

Answer 3

Complexity doesn't happen by some random chance, duh. There have been many evolutionists in the past who have realized this. Natural selection only means that the strongest survive, it doesn't necessarily promote complexity, and evolution is just saying that trillions and trillions of years ago some how, we suddenly came up with an incredibly complex cell by some mistake whether it be the Big Bang, or some other incident. Even the smallest piece of an organism is far too complex to have been made by chance. Charles Darwin(who was not a scientist himself, just a naturalist, did you know that?) admitted that the human eye was far too complex to have been made by chance. But, whatever, you are not going to believe a word I say, because the social system has blinded you with pseudo-science(false science).

Answer 4

Yes, the complexity of the construction is indicative of natural selection, and another pointer towards that is the similarity of all endo-skeletal life forms.
However the REAL question is not about who or what made the bodies we inhabit, but who are WE?
I think I'll put that up as a question and see how many times the word "god" appears.

Answer 5

An interesting question. I am quite sure God excists, though some ideas pose scientific questions. I beleive God created humans, basically as we are today, but not as evolved. It has been proven that features such as skull shape have changed over time as we evolved. For example, I only have one wisdom tooth! Over time people aren't getting as many, or any wisdom teeth! It's a feature that, since we don't need anymore, has stopped. We are much more developed than earlier humans, in technologies ect. We were, after all, created in God's image, so maybe he wants the question left unanswered, something for us to think about perhaps.
So we obviously have evolved over time, but I don't think we started out as monkeys ;).

Answer 6

This was dealt with by Hume 250 years ago, Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion should be compulsory reading in schools.

Answer 7

Actually I believe it is the complexity of the cell that proves God's involvement. You cannot remove one component of a cell and have a viable lifeform. This concept is irreducible complexity.

Answer 8

My reaction? I am confused by both camps making great and wonderful discoveries, and then ,,,,, and then, reaching really moronic conclusions. -- of course, who am I to judge. I am just a dumb Orangutan here in the Zoo.

(I would explain what I mean by great discoveries, but I have been having memory lapses lately; cause the Zoo Keeper has been feeding us too much spinach.) -

Answer 9

I think you are a spiritual person and should probably look into spirituality and learn more about yourself before you try to figure out religion. They are two separate entities.

Answer 10

I read up on Zen alot and have come to the conclusion that there is only one answer.

nothing.