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"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it" Matthew 16:18

Christ promised that his Church would never fall into error, therefore, since the Catholic Church is the only church to have existed since the time of Christ are you willing to say that Jesus is a liar, and that the Catholic Church did fall into doctrinal error? [the church clergy are sinners and many have been corrupt in the past, yet the holy sacraments and teachings of the Catholic Church are in themselves perfect because of the holy spirit's divine guidance as promised by Christ]

comments?

2007-04-10 13:42:54 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

13 answers

Christ went on to give Peter - the first Pope - the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, and to tell him, "Whose sins you forgive they are forgiven them...whose sins you hold bound, they are held bound."
It's in the Bible, which by the way is a Catholic document, a product of the Magesterium of the Church.
Read the writings of early Catholics...St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, and, yes, St. Paul. They are brilliant.
Yes, the Catholic Church is Christ's church on earth.

2007-04-10 14:27:58 · answer #1 · answered by Matt 2 · 2 1

How do you understand what the doctrines are, you at the instant are not Catholic???? And who stated they don't look to be Christian. And pedophelia, yeah this is much extra worry-unfastened in different church homes than the Catholic Church. Ppl only make a large deal approximately it whilst it includes the RCC reason they HATE the Catholic Church. And conflict, this is occurring now, i don't think of the commonplace public of them are Catholics. So who's doing the main killing now? Jesus well-known the RCC meaning, the RCC are extra Christian than you. Matthew sixteen:18 "...I say to you, you're Peter, and upon this rock i'll construct MY church. And the gates of the Netherworld won't be triumphant against it..." definition of Catholic: commonly used.meaning for everyone

2016-10-28 09:34:59 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Biblechi, the Orthodox church were schismatics. They disagreed with the Pope and broke away from the
Catholic church around the year 1054. So there is no continuity in the Orthodox church nor salvation. Luther differed on major doctrines of the Catholic faith and there was no way the Catholic church could tolerate that heresy. It was a major blow to the church but the Catholic church would rather lose a big chunk of its followers than distort the truth to pamper them.

Coming to the answer............The Roman Catholic Church has always been aware that she has been given by Christ the entire deposit of revelation to guard until the last day and thus asserts the infallibility of her Supreme Pastor, appointed by Christ to be His Vicar on earth, and also that salvation can be found only within her maternal bosom.
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The Catholic Church has solemnly defined three times by infallible declarations that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.
The most explicit and forceful of the three came from Pope Eugene IV, in the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441, who proclaimed ex cathedra: "The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, also Jews, heretics, and schismatics can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire 'which was prepared for the devil and his angels' (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with Her... No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."

The other two infallible declarations are as follows: 'There is one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all can be saved.' Pope Innocent III, ex cathedra, (Fourth Lateran Council, 1215).

'We declare, say , define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.' Pope Boniface VIII, (Unam Sanctam, 1302).

This means, and has always meant, that salvation and unity exist only within the Catholic Church, and that members of heretical groups cannot be considered as "part" of the Church of Christ.

2007-04-11 09:13:40 · answer #3 · answered by Pat 3 · 1 0

Catholicism is not the first sect of Christianity at all! Not even close!! Jesus asked Peter who he thought He was and Peter said that Jesus is Christ the Messiah. The rock that Jesus is talking about is the foundational truth that Peter spoke when he answered Jesus' question, not Peter himself. Can you imagine what Christianity would be like if the foundation of our faith was based on Peter? Have you read about all the mistakes he made even after the Resurrection of Christ? Only Christ the risen Savior is the rock, the truth, the way and the life. Not a church nor any disciple that ever lived! As for Catholicism being the first church, again that is false. Read Acts 2 and it will tell you how Jesus appeared in the upper room where the disciples had taken refuge and released His Holy Spirit to gift them to preach the Gospel. Peter preached the first call to Christ and 3000 accepted Him. They were not Catholics! They were simply the first followers of Christ outside of the disciples. Catholicism didn't even begin until hundreds of years later.

PS: I do accept the Roman Catholic Church as Christians for the very fact that they believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior for sins. However, I don't agree with much of their rituals and reasoning's of biblical doctrine.

2007-04-10 13:53:29 · answer #4 · answered by drivn2excelchery 4 · 4 4

We accept the catholic (meaning universal) Church, just not the one based in Rome as the one established by Jesus and the one that wouldn't fall into error.

The Orthodox Church makes the same claim to have existed since the time of Christ as the RCC does. Yet, many of the practices and some of the teachings are different -they particularly do not recognize the Roman Pontiff as the supreme bishop.

The RCC DID fall into error, which is why it needed a Reformation to rid herself of false teaching. Unfortunately, the RCC forced the Reformers to leave rather than cleaning up the corruption and false doctrine that had crept in under the guise of Tradition. The only "perfection" comes from listening to the Spirit as He uses the Word of God to bring us into truth.

2007-04-10 14:06:29 · answer #5 · answered by biblechick45 3 · 2 4

I do not accept any so-called church that isn't a church of Christ. The churches of Christ are not affilated with the United Church of Christ, the Church of Christ, Scientist, the International churches of Christ (the 'Boston Movement'), or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The church of Christ belongs to Him since it has His name, not the so-called Catholic church.

The people that are members of the churches of Christ, are my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ send you greetings. (Romans 16:16, HCSB)

2007-04-10 14:05:52 · answer #6 · answered by tsc1976ers 4 · 1 1

But while Peter was central in the early spread of the gospel (part of the meaning behind Matthew 16:18-19), the teaching of Scripture, taken in context, nowhere declares that he was in authority over the other apostles, or over the Church (having primacy). See Acts 15:1-23; Galatians 2:1-14; and 1 Peter 5:1-5. Nor is it ever taught in Scripture that the bishop of Rome, or any other bishop, was to have primacy over the Church. Scripture does not even explicitly record Peter even being in Rome. Rather there is only one reference in Scripture of Peter writing from “Babylon,” a name sometimes applied to Rome (1 Peter 5:13). Primarily upon this, and the historical rise of the influence of the Bishop of Rome, comes the Roman Catholic Church teaching of the primacy of the Bishop of Rome. However, Scripture shows that Peter’s authority was shared by the other apostles (Ephesians 2:19-20), and the “loosing and binding” authority attributed to him was likewise shared by the local churches, not just their church leaders (see Matthew 18:15-19; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13; 2 Corinthians 13:10; Titus 2:15; 3:10-11).

Also, nowhere does Scripture state that in order to keep the church from error, the authority of the apostles was passed on to those they ordained (apostolic succession). Apostolic succession is “read into” those verses that the Roman Catholic Church uses to support this doctrine (2 Timothy 2:2; 4:2-5; Titus 1:5; 2:1; 2:15; 1 Timothy 5:19-22). Paul does NOT call on believers in various churches to receive Titus, Timothy, and other church leaders based on their authority as bishops, or their having apostolic authority, but rather based upon their being fellow laborers with him (1 Corinthians 16:10; 16:16; 2 Corinthians 8:23).

What Scripture DOES teach is that false teachings would arise even from among church leaders, and that Christians were to compare the teachings of these later church leaders with Scripture, which alone is infallible (Matthew 5:18; Psalm 19:7-8; 119:160; Proverbs 30:5; John 17:17; 2 Peter 1:19-21). The Bible does not teach that the apostles were infallible, apart from what was written by them and incorporated into Scripture. Paul, in talking to the church leaders in the large city of Ephesus, makes note of coming false teachers, and to fight against such error does NOT commend them to “the apostles and those who would carry on their authority,” but rather he commends them to “God and to the word of His grace...” (Acts 20:28-32). It is Scripture that was to be the infallible measuring stick for teaching and practice (2 Timothy 3:16-17), not apostolic successors. It is by examining the Scriptures that teachings are shown to be true or false (Acts 17:10-12).

2007-04-10 16:20:00 · answer #7 · answered by Freedom 7 · 1 2

1: the roman catholic church did not exist at the time of Christ. Christ established His church, which is the whole body of believers, which is far stronger than any denomination

2: Christ did NOT establish any of the following: popes, bishops, cardinals, nuns, the rosary, the 'confession booth', the selling of indulgences, purgatory, the 'last rites', infant baptism (or christening), the 'stations of the cross', the "mother of God' nonsense, the inquisition (what was that you said about the catholic church and doctrinal error? i'm trying to remember when it was that Christ might have said 'convert them whether they want to be converted or not-and if they resist, torture and kill them') Christ told peter, 'feed my sheep'...and i believe that peter obeyed Christ in that regard...but i don't recall him saying 'hoard the gold and let the common people starve while your religious leaders wine and dine the kings and princes and scheme and plot with them to overthrow each other"...read your history, man...without your rosary-colored glasses...you might get a wake-up call

2007-04-10 14:17:32 · answer #8 · answered by spike missing debra m 7 · 2 3

Jesus gave us one Faith, one Church. He did not intend for His Truth to be left to individual interpretation, thus leading to the thousands of different denominations we have today (54,000+). He set down one Church, and She has preserved and taught the one Faith for the past 2,000 years and continues to do so. This is one reason why I am a proud convert to the Roman Catholic Church.

God bless.

2007-04-11 02:58:12 · answer #9 · answered by Danny H 6 · 1 1

1 billion Christians accept the Roman Catholic church--they belong to it.

2007-04-10 13:50:01 · answer #10 · answered by huffyb 6 · 6 0

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