Prove Jesus was any more than a clever magician assisted by his twelve Apostles? Crucifixion?

Question

All his so called miracles would be a cinch for street magicians of today, with 12 able assistants. The early part of his life is kept secret. These could have been years he used practicing his craft. Who confirmed any of the things that is supposed to have happened. His twelve assistants who else. The only question is was he able to pull off the biggie, The Crucifixion. It could have been done, if he was as good as some of our great ones today. People could have been bribed. After all he did live in a time of great ignorance. Some people still lived in caves for Christ sake.

Answer 1

The devil is still trying to smother the truth isn't he? Same old same old. Sorry, but He is ALIVE!

Answer 2

What kind of person r u to judge the greatest man to ever come to the Earth. If u actually read the Bible, you would find out that his early life is no mystery and is not secret. You would also kno that profets from the Old Testament fortold that there was gona be a Mesiah. It was predicted in Daniel 9:25-26. It gives the exact time that it would happen. It mentions the 70 weeks. Each day is equal to 1 year. A total of 490 years til' the Mesiah would arrive and be killed.
The first seven weeks that were fortold by divinely inspired profets took 49 years, and then the fortold restoration of Jerusalem arrived (455bc- 406bc).
The 62 weeks mentioned after that took 434 years, and then the Jesus was baptized and it was made official that he was the promised Mesiah (29ac).
In the midst of the last week, Jesus was killed (33ac).

There the profecy became true. OH! And for that disrespectful smart one saying that Jesus was not clever, well guess what, Jesus's purpose was to come to the world so that he could sacrifice himself so that many could acquire everlasting life according to what John 17:3. Remember that Jesus even told his apostle Peter to put his sword away when he cut off the official's ear. If Jesus really wanted to escape, he could have, but then that wouldnt be completing the purpose of his coming to the Earth.

So the next time you decide to be disrespectful and blasfemus, maybe you should think about reading the Bible nex time before you make a bad conclusion like that one.

Answer 3

OK - but first, you prove that the red color in a watermelon is not caused by modifying its skin in some fashion. In other words, I say that a watermelon is purple inside, but if you penetrate the skin in any way, the inside instantly becomes red. Prove it's not so.

You are arguing a negative, and negatives can't be proven. A rephrase of your question would read, "Prove Jesus was NOT just a clever magician assisted by his twelve apostles." This can not logically be done.

Tom

Answer 4

You can go to the Near East today and find dozens of "Jesuses," i.e. holy men who speak in parables, perform "miracles," are surrounded by a close-knit throng of followers, and occassionally commit unconventional acts in order to demonstrate their superior sanctity (think Jesus with the money-changers). Add to that the fact that most of Jesus' sayings as recorded in the gospels are literally the rhetorical commonplaces of all time, if not outright plagiarisms (the whole of the "Sermon on the Mount, e.g., is lifted from the Talmud), and it remains to be explained why anybody should attach any special importance to "Jesus," save for the obstinacy of habit produced by generations of systematic sectarian training. If you say "Because he's God!" or whatever, you're just speaking from your bigotry; and 3/4 of the world categorically disagrees with you.

As for the "people wouldn't die for a fake" argument - I guess you would also argue that the 9/11 hijackers are enjoying their 72 virgins as we speak?

Answer 5

His "12 assistants" for the most part died very ugly deaths. They would not have done that for a farce. The New Testament is made up of letters and books written by eye witnesses to what Jesus did, the four Gospels in particular. If it was a fake, it was a fake that many, many died for...and in this case, that makes no sense.

Answer 6

i think of there are a number of the explanation why women folk weren't chosen between the twelve apostles. For one, being an Apostle is an authoritative coaching place. women folk in that factor weren't allowed to be instructors or have authority. they does not be taken heavily by men and can maximum possibly be placed to dying good away for taking over one in all those place. women folk weren't even taken heavily as witnesses in those days (quite plenty an identical factor in Muslim and orthodox Jewish subculture today). Eventhough Jesus did no longer elect women folk between the 12, He enjoyed and respected women folk to an intensive severe in that day. Jesus exchange into disgusted by unfair Jewish regulations against women folk in regard to divorce, adultery and treatment of widows. Jesus usual prostitutes and "sinful" women folk without shaming them. Jesus healed many women folk, discipled women folk and made decipleship a much better calling for women folk than house household projects (Mary and Martha), printed his objective first to an outcast Samaritan woman at a properly, travelled with women folk, made women folk the 1st to be certain him after his Resurrection and later chastised and embarrassed the lads who did no longer have self assurance the girls folk's witness to His Resurrection. as a remember of actuality, it exchange into Christianity itself that replaced the completed view of ladies folk in our western subculture. without Jesus, the international, today's women folk may well be in an identical slavery they have been compelled into in pagan cultures around the globe. Christianity and the instructions of Christ liberated women folk and gave them greater objective.

Answer 7

Tell your story to the blind man, the man in the cemetery filled with a legion of demons, the dead girl's parents, Lazarus who lay in the grave 4 days and the leprous man that no one would touch but Jesus. Ask the greatest magician that you know to touch a leprous person or to get in the same room with a man filled with demons, naked, cutting himself and spewing vomit and filthy words from his mouth. That demonic man would have your magicians for lunch.

God said that you have no excuse not to believe. Yet, you choose not to believe.

Answer 8

Phyllis.....I guess all the things wrote about Jesus 100-800 years before He ever stepped foot on the earth....what about those things? I love people who spout off without any kind of idea what they are talking about.....One word for you Phyllis...."read".......But Jesus loves you too.....

Betty...that "coming back from the dead" trick would really make Jesus the best magician Ive ever seen.....As for living in a time of great ignorance....your assumptions prove without a doubt we in in those times now.....But Jesus loves you too.......No ACT or SAT scores required.......

Answer 9

would eleven men die for a lie one sent to an island I just don"t hardly think so and what about Paul the Apostle he was out to kill all the believers in Christ until he was on the road to Damascus and Jesus himself spoke directly to him. I'm curious answer that for me.

Answer 10

actually there was a show where a street magician tried to imitate Christ's miracles. he didnt do so good.

and i dont think nails in hands and feet, a spear wound, blood and water pouring out(heart failure) can be faked

Answer 11

"Christianity was the ultimate product of religious syncretism in the ancient world. Its emergence owed nothing to a holy carpenter. There were many Jesuses but the fable was a cultural construct. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs. Following a star would lead you in circles. The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimise the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin. That idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses."