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I was watching a documentary on the History channel and the oldest form of the ten commandments(it was way more than ten rules) forbids creating the image of God as well as using imperfect words to define the perfect being (God,GCB, Allah, Creator, Jehova, whatever).
I was wondering what your opinion on this issue is. Whether you will take it literal and not use Gods name in response to hell, or call it blasphemy and continue to use the word due to the current dogma? I know every (or most) religious person on this site has used the word God, can you be eligble for hell? Also, if you believe this is all nonsense, why do you believe your latest version of the commandments holds any more truth than the originals?

2007-04-10 10:57:07 · 23 answers · asked by Maikeru 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Amazing that some people will never believe the Bible or the Church. but take something on Discovery or the History Channel as un-disputed truth.

Peace!

2007-04-10 11:01:15 · answer #1 · answered by C 7 · 3 1

The Ten Commandments represented all 613 Commandments. Two sets of Ten Commandments were made, the first broken because of the children of Israel sinning before Moses, and the second placed in the Ark of the Covenant to show the only place the Commandments of God could be kept is in Christ, as the Ark of the Covenant was a 'type of Christ'. It is common knowledge in Christian orthodoxy (not meaning the Orthodox Church, but what is said to be proper Christian ideology throughout non-cultic Christian belief), that none of us can live by the Law of Moses. This is uncontested in Christian orthodoxy. But confusion arises when some churches decide to lay a few of the Laws on the congregation, saying that you cannot be saved unless you do this (whatever it is) and that you do that (whatever that is). So those who say they live by the Ten Commandments, or some other part of the Law of Moses, are mixing in the old covenant of Moses into the new covenant of Christ. According to Christ that does work (the parables of the old garment and the new patch, and the new wine into old wineskins). Paul called them perverts of the Gospel, and told the Galatian, the Philippian, and the Corinthian churches that those people who tried to deliver that Gospel are not preaching it right, and they don';t belong in the church. Since the church has lost sight of that conflict in these about 2000 years, they are typically guilty of mixing those two covenants together, perverting the Gospel into this legalistic cesspool we so commonly have today. Romans 14 23 . . . and everything that does not come from faith is sin. We are sinner who have no other hope than to trust in god for the righteousness of Christ. Otherwise, we are guilty of whatever we sin at.

2016-05-17 05:51:29 · answer #2 · answered by leta 3 · 0 0

That's great!! OMG>>>Oh MY Goodness!!!

I am totally in favour of not defining or naming! Defining restricts! Does the Divine take human form? Is that form Blue, Red, White, Yellow, Black or Brown? Fat, skinny, male or...female? You see, that is problematic.

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ isn't really so much a name as it is a very respectful description.

What language is the word god from? Interesting to have an English translation wouldn't it? Alla was a man so that's OK, same for Jesus. They did say "Hey you!" back then or maybe some one did but do you get this point? I don't know where the other references come from or how they translate. I use, shhhhhh, I say quietly... Great Mystery and Source of Life, again very respectful direction based references. I say all with love and respect in the spirit of trying to work this out.

When I say _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _, I know I am heard. So, I do not want to cause confusion here. I am very grateful for my relationship to the Divine. That word works better in discussion to me. It is the one I use the most, in part because it is inclusive of every ones deity... to my way of thinking.

I am not making a joke here. Cool question! Thanks!
In respect,
peace!

2007-04-10 11:15:56 · answer #3 · answered by Jamie 4 · 0 1

The ten commandments tell us not to use God's name in vain. Meaning, in any way that would be disrespectful. Certainly, we CAN use God's name, if we do so in a respectful manner. God gave Himself many of the titles we use, most importantly, the one that identifies Him personally, Jehovah God. And by admitting that He alone is the Creator of all things, we are speaking justice...not blasphemy.
This is not a current "dogma". The Hebrew Scriptures alone, contain the divine name about 7000 times!

2007-04-10 11:09:36 · answer #4 · answered by aseptic technique 5 · 0 0

You shouldn't believe everything you see on History Channel.

Those "documentaries" are only as good as the individual who wrote them.

Many of them are GRAVELY flawed.

I have a friend who's written and filmed three episodes. One on Rob Roy and two on Amityville.

He's spoken with me about some film makers who would rather make "sensational" programs over truthful ones.

I have a Hebrew Holy Scripture. Their 10 Commandments are the same as in the Catholic Bible.

What you speak of, not naming God, is Talmudic. That is that is rabbinical teachings ON the Tanak - the word for their Holy Scriptures.

Many will not even spell out God. They type it G_d.

2007-04-10 11:06:51 · answer #5 · answered by Max Marie, OFS 7 · 2 0

The History channel is Quite Often Incorrect in their explanations concerning Holy Scriptures. The history channel is a very, very poor source of information regarding Biblical Scripture. They are very limited.

The idea of some "laws" in Hebrew is not something that,
if transgressed, is going to get you zapped.

Torah [Law] is instruction, that if followed, will enrich
one’s life, if ignored will diminish it.”

There are many different laws. The law of sin and death was nailed to the cross. The laws dealing with sacrifices were only for the Temple period.
The intention of ceremonial laws is to bring holiness to God’s people. “And the Lord spoke unto Moses and said, ‘Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel and say to them; You shall be holy, for I the Lord you God am holy.’” Jesus became the ultimate sacrifice–no more sacrifices are needed (Hebrews 8).

We are not without the law but under “the law of Christ” (Gal. 6:2). There are laws that apply to believers today that deal with our relationships with other people. The law is good and just and perfect–there is a problem with the law–there is a problem with man. Man, with his sin nature, is unable to keep the law.
THE LAW WAS NEVER MEANT TO SAVE—only to guide. Without God’s instruction, it would be impossible for people to live together. Without God’s law, there could be no grace. As David said in Psalm 119, God laid down precepts that are to be obeyed. He said he meditated on God’s precepts and ways, and if we walk in God’s paths our hearts are set free.
The New Testament verses concerning God’s law explain that those who love God will follow God’s instructions—His ways, His paths (Romans 2:23; Ephesians 6:2-3; Exodus 20:12; Deuteronomy 5:16; Hebrews 10:16; James 1:25; 2:11; 8-26; 1 John 2:3-4, 24; 3:22; 5:2,3; 2 John 6; Revelation 22:14).

The Jews never believed that anyone could earn their way to salvation. They know salvation is only by grace through Messiah
The law exposes sin, measures man, and actually shows us how full of mercy God is.

Torah [Law] is instruction, that if followed, will enrich
one’s life, if ignored will diminish it.”

The law revealed to man his sins! The law revealed to man his need for salvation!!! Please find a good Bible study class or go to a Christian college and take some classes. The history channel is NOT a good source for studying Scripture. ~)~

2007-04-17 19:55:29 · answer #6 · answered by gigiemilu 4 · 0 0

Well even if it is a sin I don't think God would send anyone to hell for something they had no idea was wrong. Besides, contrary to popular belief of some here, God does not sit on a thrown making aribtrary laws to trip people up. He loves everyone and wants them to be in communion with him in Heaven. An arbitrary God is not logical. Those people that go to hell are people that have an opportunity to know God, and then completey reject Him. (and no, I do not believe that being an athiest means you automatically go to hell).
In any case, I believe that the cannon of scripture we have today was divinely inspired and chosen to be part of that cannon by God himself for many reasons. Therefore, this other set of commandments you're refering to is invalid. In my experience tv specials on any religion tend to be full of it. So I would certainly not change my beliefs because of something I saw on TV.

2007-04-10 11:15:19 · answer #7 · answered by Thom 5 · 1 0

Great question. I'm glad someone has brought up an intellectually challenging question. Well the thing is, the Old testament is simply a Christian translation of the Jewish Tanakh. The Old testament was written law for God's children... his chosen people... the Jews. You must put the words of the Bible into context. For example, the book of Leviticus lists a barrage of certain foods that Jewish people could not eat. The Kosher meals. This does not really apply to us. We are not God's chosen people. We are what is referred to as Gentiles in the Bible, or simply, one who is not Jewish. Jesus Christ came to save us Gentiles. The Jews were already saved, for they are God's people. But we, needed Jesus in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus FORGIVES sin... whereas, in the days of the old testament, NO ONE (except for a select few, such as Ezekiel, Abraham, and Moses...) entered HEAVEN. So when you ask, are we damned to hell if we use God's name in vein... I will answer yes... but he forgives you... And gives you a chance to be better... and know better...

Please, do not take my word for it... Learn more about God, philosophy, and religions. Make a decision for yourself. I am a very "liberal" Christian... But I could be Wayyy off and then, I'd be damned to hell... I wouldn't want anyone else to be damned on my account. So please, go educate yourself to the truths out there... It is very easily obtainable.

2007-04-10 11:16:33 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Deuteronomy 27:17 says: "'Cursed is anyone who moves their neighbor's boundary stone.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'"

Proverbs 27:19 says: "As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man." The heart is the time-keeping mechanism. It can beat in time with God's purposes, or it can be regulated by managing a lifestyle of cheap thrills combined with rest and recuperation and possibly trips to the doctors regularly. The whole concept of scripture (which means the action, function or process of scripting) is that it is a healing aid in itself, without relying on prostituting oneself to other "gods" in any attempt to convince somebody to want to help you.

The injunction at Exodus 20 against taking God's name in vain (shav' from show' which comes from a word meaning to rush over) shows that He is not a subject to dealt with lightly. The point is not going to "hell" after death. The point is that some belief systems that need shoring up constantly by asking the opinion of others leave one open to being taken advantage of, simply because you don't have the full faith yourself. God does not expect us to put ourselves in harm's way by putting faith aside in search of a protocol. Ceremonies are for courts. The Bible clearly describes God's court in Psalms 92:12, 13: "The righteous will flourish like a palm tree, they will grow like a cedar of Lebanon; planted in the house of the LORD, they will flourish in the courts of our God."

2007-04-10 11:11:01 · answer #9 · answered by Christian person 3 · 1 0

I presume you're talking about the code of a Hammubari. This predated dated the 10 Commandments, however by its nature is a legal document not a religious one.

In this way I can incorporate it into traditional Christian or Jewish belief.

2007-04-17 23:25:12 · answer #10 · answered by Boston Bluefish 6 · 0 0

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