Atheists please, try to be logical for a minute here and answer this question........?

Question

many, of course not all, atheists place much importance on science. As a poster has shared recently, he can't wait until science proves god wrong, now that hasn't happened yet, but this poster " believes it will ", does this indicate that some(of course not all ) atheists have put their faith in science and accepted a belief system which can not or has not been proven?

"Yes, you can call it that. Try and penetrate with our limited means the secrets of nature and you will find that, behind all the discernible laws and connections, there remains something subtle, intangible and inexplicable. Veneration for this force behind anything that we can comprehend is my religion. To that extent I am, in fact, religious."

have they traded God for science? and is it still a search for the ultimate truth?

uh,
did i mention jesus?

resentments there antoninus? wow, look at those projections

Answer 1

There is a very big difference between religion and science... Namely, science has to confirm it's results in reality.

It's not hard for anyone to see that science simply gets better results than religion (hence modern medicine, space exploration, etc.). That having been said, I think you are right: some followers do just substitute one belief system for the other.

Answer 2

those people that say "science has the answers to anything and everything" have in my opinion created their own belief system. science itself isnt a belief but explains things using logic, reason, and natural laws. some people have traded god for science by proclaiming this. the reality of it is, science doesnt have all the answers, it wont have all the answers because many things that religion holds as true happend millions if not billions of years ago. science cant even explain what life is or why it happends. it just does. it can explain things like death (or at least why we die), light, energy, and more. im an atheist and i can accept that because i am only looking for a reason behind things. if somebody asks me something that i dont know i will say "i dont know" and not the modified christian answer of "science has the answers" for many christians its "the bible has the answers"

Answer 3

Science does not require anymore faith than the faith I have that the floor will be there when I step out of bed in the morning.
If God has been traded for science, I think it is for the better. Science has benefited mankind more than religion, with its dogmatics and holy wars, has ever.
Science is a search for the ultimate truth for a lot of people. I think that is fine. I find science very awe-inspiring, more so than any religion.

Answer 4

Einstein is often quoted out of context. It is true that he did not embrace atheism, but it is equally true that he openly rejected Judaism, Christianity and any literal interpretation of the Bible.

Hardly a poster child for people who worship anthropomorphic gods.

Einstein didn't believe in Christianity any more than I do, but his reasoning was different.

Christians are so desperate for any person of intellect to appear to be on their side, that they will embrace a few words that drop from the mouth of a man who would have been considered an heretic just a few centuries ago.

As far as your god goes, I only need to read the silly stories in the Bible to know that he doesn't exist. I don't need to 'prove' that he doesn't exist any more than I need to 'prove' that Walt Disney isn't a supernatural being who created an actual Universe of animated characters and then used a special telescope to film them.

Answer 5

"Something subtle, intangible and inexplicable." Effectively, you've limited God's territory to anything that is not yet understood. That territory can only get smaller and smaller as time goes on. You might want to consider a different formulation.

Science attempts to explain HOW things happen. It doesn't assign any meanings. If you attributed the WHYs to God, he might survive a little better.

Answer 6

I don't think that it is possible to prove a generic god wrong. Science already has shown a number of things in the Bible to be wrong.

The basic principle is that if you think there is a god, you need to provide the evidence. Without evidence it is not scientifically valid. That is not a matter of faith at all. That is simply using the best available evidence to come up with a reasonable conclusion.

Answer 7

Well, the disproofs of God existence(like proofs of it) can be divided into a priori and a posteriori arguments. Discussions of religion tend to turn away from proofs and disproofs due to the perception of enmity between science and religious beliefs. The lack of any legitimate evidence from the side of religion and the scientific investigation of religion(psychology, sociology, and anthropology) has made religion irrelevant.

Answer 8

It doesn't take faith if it's science.

And science already succeeded at disproving any theistic concept of deity.

Deism is still viable, so help yourself... effectually though, deism is no different from atheism so, why not exercise occam's razor?

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Gemma: Earn your degrees in Computer Science (pay special attention when someone says 'Church-Turing Thesis') and Psychology (pay special attention when someone brings up the Monist vs. Dualist schools of thought), and we can talk again.

I know for a fact that there is no theistic deity, mathematically provably so.

As mentioned above, deism's still an option though.

Answer 9

Part of the problem is, we hear people on here saying all the time, "Atheists, be logical", and "atheists, be reasonable." The thing is...we ARE the ones being logical and reasonable. It is NOT logical OR reasonable to attach a supernatural significance to something simply because we don't understand it, or react emotionally to it, and it is NOT logical OR reasonable to believe in a super-being that inflicts eternal torturous punishment on us if we don't "believe" in it. Sorry, I just had to say that.

(Now as for what you go on to say further in your question--it is an interesting thought, but I still don't believe there is a "God". Nature in and of itself has a spirituality to it, but I don't mean that in terms of gods or ghosts.)

Answer 10

Your belief has no proof either. But there is much more proven by science than religion. The only proof that you have of your Jesus is the bible, and you cannot prove the bible by using the bible.
Antonius